STP Gathering 2010 (LOCATION CHANGE!!!!!)

Ravie

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Okay I looked up some beaches...

clam beach(nice clean beach, alot of critters last time i was there): http://co.humboldt.ca.us/portal/living/county_parks/default.asp?parkID=CLAM

Moonstone beach: http://www.goingoutside.com/beach/1000224_Moonstone_Beach_California.html

Mad River Beach: google- http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

Info- http://www.yelp.com/biz/mad-river-beach-arcata

I like the idea of Mad River beach. its the closest to town and its perfectly legal to have animals, fires, and camp.
 

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I think the police in any of the Oregon coastal towns would not be very fun to deal with. Bagby hot springs would seem a-ok to me. There's always people hanging out partying there. The access to the springs and camping is free, especially if you go to the sites that are about 1 mile beyond the hot springs. There's no way rangers check out there more than once or twice a month. If you have your alcohol in a nalgene or something you're a-ok. If someone has a car it's about 20-25 miles to Estacada for beer/foodstore.

The coast could work out, that sounds groovy. But, I would say that any place that is commonly used will probably get a visit by the cops if there's a bonfire and a lot of people/noise. Don't know about the beach around Arcata though. Anyway - I'd be interested in more info sounds fun!



Ey Ravie, that "Mad River Beach" link goes to a "Lil Miracles Daycare" in Redding, CA. Although, on second thought maybe we should have the party there. That would be punk as hell.
 

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I like Widerstand's suggestion of Manzanita. I've been there a few times and it would be really easy to camp out in the dunes without anyone knowing you are there. I've been out on the beach at night plenty a time there, and I have never seen a cop. There are always people drinking there, but it is such a spread out beach that it isn't worth their time to investigate. Plus they would never see you or a fire in the dunes, especially if you were far enough from town.


Personally I think hot springs are a bad idea. At the better known spots camping is always illegal and so is drinking. In OR, the most popular springs are always on patrol routes. Of course we could go with a lesser known spring, but there are problems there as well. First of all, I don't know how easy it is to find a lesser known spring that is semi-easily accessible, and second of all its fucking dangerous lol! NEVER get in a hot spring that you aren't absolutely certain is safe (and you won't know this if it isn't popular). Shit, not too long ago some people died in one of the popular redneck springs out here. The temps. can rise suddenly without warning and fucking cook you. So good idea in theory, but in my opinion way too sketch to actually do.

Throwing out a couple more ideas, river camping is always fun if the beach doesn't work out. Plenty of rivers to choose from to. There are plenty of good spots on the Clackamas river that I know of, and I've heard a lot of good things about other rivers in OR. Ideally you want a spot off of a backwoods highway where the river bank is below the road. There's a lot of switchbacks from the hwy on the Clackamas that take 5 minutes to reach the bottom. Some of them have a lot of space at the bottom, and there is no way to see it from the road, and no way a cop is going to go down and spend 15 minutes checking each of them (there are a lot over a long distance). Personally I've grouped camped out there with a bunch of stoners getting fucked up and blowing up mortars. If that doesn't get you caught, not sure what will and we were fine. Something to look into. Pretty much spots like this all over OR and CA.

Some of the northern beaches in OR might be worth checking out (Astoria and such), but those tend to be a lot more popular than some of the southern and mid beaches. Really, Arrow is right about getting permission to use someone's property. That's a pretty safe bet for something like this. I'm running locations through my head, but haven't thought of anything so far. Only decent place I have access to is a joint-venture cabin in AZ, but distance aside it would likely be snowed in til summer.
 

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Just a quick update. If ya'll are really set on hot springs, then there is another possibility. My best friend who is native (Nez Perce) suggested the Warm Springs reservation. Normally that would be a no-go, having a giant dirty kid party on the reservation and all, but he knows some of the tribe leaders and said he could probably hook it up easily. Normally people visit the resort there, but there are plenty of other mineral springs around the area. If we are talking about hot springs then that would very likely be the way to go. With permission to be there the tribal police probably wouldn't bother us and the OR cops can't be there so it's really safe. There would be one major stipulation though, and that would be that absolutely no one in any way fucks anything up. IE. no beer runs, spangin on the rez, being obnoxious in town, etc. Other than that, it would be a good spot. I said to my friend, "You really think you could get permission for 50 drunk punks to camp out for free?" His response, "Only 50?"

So IF everyone is really really into the hot-springs idea, this is a possibility.
 

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ArrowInOre said:
yea the tribe is fuckin broke right now, so unless you have a HUGE hunk-o-cash, it's very unlikely that you could get it cleared. But, there are so many other great and easily accessable places along ht ecoast line, I strongly encourage you to all investigat further, some of the links wider sent earlier on in the thread.
*shrugs* I don't know anything about the tribe, I'm just going off what my native friend says. Sounded better than getting fined for camping at another hotspring lol.
 

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y'all should look at the yuba river instead. There's a great little place about five miles outside the town of Washington, CA (about a 100 miles north of sac give or take). I go there every time i'm in northern california; there's a stretch of river that's lined with towering cliffs and at the bottom there are these cool sandy beaches easily capable of hosting a few dozen people, we used to camp out there 30 deep and never once saw a cop or forest ranger. There's waterfalls, rockjumping, all kinds of crazy shit, there are even natural waterslides carved into the sandstone...and it's all within five miles of a good sized grocery store. It's a pretty secluded place, but not too far off I-80. Permits are supposedly required but I have yet to purchase one. You guys would have a good time out there. april it'll be a little cold for swimming but that'd be true for anywhere.

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?client=safari&rls=en-us&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=washington+california&fb=1&gl=us&ftid=0x809b84f5ac2e8f21:0xee84ae8fb76d8790&ei=qTZ9S9eWC4mkngffjKTYBw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ8gEwAA
 

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I would love to b e a part of this, but it has to be around mid april for me to attend cuase I have to be back on the east coast by the end of april
 

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oh... also to add... I do fire performance (poi & devil sticks) so I can help out with entertainment and also I wouldnt mind to help with setup. setting up
 

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"What about a national park? Large enough to be hidden from other people, close enough to touristy spots (food, water, booze), and isn't it free to camp in a national park?"

It costs just to get into a National Park. Up to fifty-plus dollars. Camping would add nightly costs. You would never be hidden in a National Park.

Nevada has many pools with warmth. So many are deserted. Ideal.

Problem would be access. These babies are in the middle of nowhere. Isn't that what is wanted?

I know many spots if this sparks interest.
 

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Hitching across the barren Nevada desert in April? Oyyyy..
 

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*sigh* I'm over my head already haha so here it goes:

-Im over the hot springs, stop bringing it up unless you have one in your back yard and just so happen to live on the west coast.

I like Derailed's idea of that river but it would be way easier for the location to be closer to a freeway.
 

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So I'm going to bring whiskeytown lake up.

Its realy close to where I live(i know redding is lame) but out of the city is awesome.

Whiskeytown lake:
-dont mind alcohal in campgrounds
-close to a river and the lake
-dogs are okay
-toilets are close
-not far from stores
-Nobody wants to fuck with a bunch of dirty kids there
-security is normally relaxed
-even early april here is going to be around 85 degrees so the water will be warm.
-Hitchhiking up to whiskeytown shouldnt be too difficult and i can do runs with my car to pick people up from town.

This camp site i found offers:
•large Bbq Grills
•Bear Boxes
•Boating
•Comfort Station
•Drinking Water
•Fire Rings
•Fishing
•Parking
•Picnic Area
•Swimming
•Table
•Toilet, Pit/Vault

+waterfalls and plenty of trails to hike if thats what your into.

AND it holds up to or around 50 people for one camp area.
And i dont want to hear shit about paying for a site, im making $200 a day at work its no big deal. plus i like to make things legit.

Here's a site talking about it: http://www.recreation.gov/ca/Dry_Cr...oundDetails.do?contractCode=NRSO&parkId=70934

Pictures: http://images.google.com/images?um=...+Campground+whiskeytown&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0

Directions from Redding: http://maps.google.com/maps?um=1&hl...mpground whiskeytown&oq=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

I say either this or a beach thats farther south than oregon.
 

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Glass beach, mendicino CA. We've had 30+ kids raging there before with no problems. Just have to be sure to hit town in small groups.

Big sur area also has plenty of places where we could pull this off right off the 1.

Hell, we've had 30+ gatherings of kids on ocean beach in sf before.

I've also been to big gatherings out at cougar that involved lots of booze and camping with no problems.

Rio Dell CA, has tons of camping spots down by the river only a mile or so hike from town.

Ya'll don't get out much...
 

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okay, i hate driving in san francisco so fuck that. Any beach around mendicino area that we wouldnt get fuck with at and is easy access sounds great. glass beach sounds nice. what do you guys think? glass beach? at least i wouldnt have to spend any fucking money on it lol
 

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I think that whiskeytown lake campsite sounds pretty rad!
 

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