Well you are right, but rare are the times that one of my post as brief as they can be do not carry some substancial meaning.You're often making simple three-word comments, and I have to seek out the meaning or relevant connection to whatever the discussion is. Your remarks are so brief and simple I wonder why you bother to post them.
I dunno, maybe it's just a non-English language issue.
Don't want to get the thread off-topic...
I agree with all of that and feel the same way. ANd I'm anti-civ! And Evasion DID suck! Fuck that shit.I'm a crimethinc kid. most of the important people in my life have been deeply involved with crimethinc at some point. I've read and heard and felt all the arguments till I was blue in the face it doesn't change the fact and idea that action is just that. If there were a functional funded and productive collective to be a part of that didn't use romantic propaganda in a recruitist type fashion, maybe i would be a part of that. but there's not. a decentralized, productive faction of anarchists (lifestylists or not, I'm an anti-civ girl, myself) is better than nothing. I'm an activist. I define that as I please. And I live without regret. The only people Ive met to accept that are crimethincers.
That said, I thought evasion sucked.:die:
consent pretty much takes place of the word "permission" for example if I wanted to sit next to you or hug you first, I'd say.."do I have your consent to sit next to you" or "do I have your consent to hug you" that kind of shit.What is this consent crap that people keep talking about? I never heard about it.
Nope def not over exaggerated, if anything under. I sat next to this girl at the convergence and she got pissed off that I didnt ask consent! I totally agree about the if you dont want it just say no. It may not be what crimethinc is "about" but it is a significant factor so I disagreee that it should move on.I've never encountered shit that strict and it almost sounds exaggerated by the critics. But even what I have heard - in the extreme cases - has been ridiculous.
But I guess the idea is cool? Conversely, why wouldn't we operate on a system of making objections more directly and confidently: "Hey, don't hug me, I have scabies!" or "Hey, please don't sit there, I want that hottie to sit by me so I can get some action".
Action is a code word, in that example. (You know, code for what.)
Really this is not what CrimethInc. is essentially about, so the thread should move on or cease.
I disagree that it shouldnt be the role of the person to object. If that person isnt emotionally strong enough to say dont sit next to me or get away, why are they in the activist scene if they cant even speak up for themselves? I say the activist scene, because this is the only place I have ever seen consent in action.vg12: I don't think more confidently objecting would really work as well as it sounds. And it shouldn't be the role of the person who is being acted upon to object, really. There are a lot of factors which don't allow people to object or defend themselves sufficiently. Like physical/emotional strength, gender roles, types of privilege, and so on.
Well I agree with that, it's just that we don't need to be inconsiderate (or maybe that is good for developing our defenses and assertion) in order to be assertive.If you can't stand up for yourself... then world is gonna walk all over you. I don't care about your past, being a little wimp is no way to get things done. If you can't muster up the courage to ask someone not to sit next to you, how the FUCK do you expect to take on a government who is more than willing to kill anyone who threatens it?