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leevin, i wasnt directing that at you. i agree with everything you said, we're kindred spirits. i was talking to the poster before you. and nelco generally i dont use these terms for myself, i'm just trying to point out that l.c. would probably think of me as a hippie, i dont cut my hair, i tie dye some shit, i smoke pot and like to be barefoot, i fuckin love the music from that era, not exclusively but anyway my point is that since many people would call me a hippie and i dont have the same beliefs and values that l.c. is assuming the whole group has.

so what?..i like everything you like, except tie die
but i'm not a hippie or any stereo type..these things don't make us unacceptable people..it just makes us individual humans, not things to be catagorized..
 

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i agree, which is why like i said, in my day to day life i dont use any labels but my name and asshole. i was simplifying things for the sake of discussion, nothing more.
 

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..i don't smoke pot either..
but i like x so i guess a peice of me is hippy..
 

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i agree, which is why like i said, in my day to day life i dont use any labels but my name and asshole. i was simplifying things for the sake of discussion, nothing more.


i'm just talking back too..i'm tired of all the politics too.
 

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nelco that's exactly what i've done and will continue to do, embrace all the potential labels and dismiss them all as insufficient. believe me, i've had my share of roles. i've been the flamer, the tranny, the punk, the gawf, the stoner, and then i realized i'm nothing but a dream. even the term human is oversimplification, what's a species anyway? we're all branches from the same seed.
 

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whale i dont know if youd agree, but i looked at what hate is, and i realized that even that comes from love. anything that i care about enough to hate for, it's only because i love something else so strongly. why do i hate the corporations? because i love the cousins they oppress. why do i hate the factory farms? because i love the cousins they torture. why do i hate racists? because i love the cousins they hurt. etc etc etc
 

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yep yep
 

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i can't tell if your comments are directed at the people with this attitude or at us here discussing it. we're not saying oh we're hippies punks hate us we're discussing the rift between the two self-imagined camps.
 

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oh and i'd like to point out that at a peace rally today with plenty of selfidentifying hippies, three men were arrested and many more of us, including myself, struck and threatened with arrest. one man, nate b., was maced, billy clubbed and had three pigs on him because he was blocking the blowhard telling us to leave the public sidewalk we were on so that we'd ignore him and continue our business. i know he called himself a hippie. surely not because he thinks the label fully encompasses him, but just because the term has come to express enough of his belief system that it's close enough and simpler than giving you the entire lowdown on his worldview. but how can anyone call themself an anarchist and hate on someone like that just because of the term he chooses to express himself with?
 

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L.C. I am sorry you are so judgmental and narrow-minded. Maybe one day you can quit labeling people. Or maybe not. This thread is pretty shallow.
 

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oh and i'd like to point out that at a peace rally today with plenty of selfidentifying hippies, three men were arrested and many more of us, including myself, struck and threatened with arrest. One man, nate b., was maced, billy clubbed and had three pigs on him because he was blocking the blowhard telling us to leave the public sidewalk we were on so that we'd ignore him and continue our business. I know he called himself a hippie. Surely not because he thinks the label fully encompasses him, but just because the term has come to express enough of his belief system that it's close enough and simpler than giving you the entire lowdown on his worldview. But how can anyone call themself an anarchist and hate on someone like that just because of the term he chooses to express himself with?

agreed!!!!!!!
 

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there is a store,mini ramp,compound called THE GHETTO in the middle of tokyo.it was half punk half hip hop stores.one day i went in there drunk as normal and the tattoo room BATHROOM,oh yeah this place was once a love hotel,anyways the tattoo store was now full of incense.i yelled at them what are you fuckin hippies.i hate hippies.a couple hours later i ended up getting arrested and deported 3 months later .karma.do not fuck with hippies.
 

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it's the same with almost any group, wether it be natives,punx,hipsters, whatever. Just about everyone is alright or even "cool" one on one. like one black and one white. In a group though the mob mentalities of groups clash. There is always omni-present thought in our minds, the want to belong.
the single track thought that rests in all individuals becomes the brain of the group. All other thought seem to dissapear when like minds congragate. There are many different trains of thought to attach to.
say like the difference between hitchers and hoppers. There are those of us who have no preferance floating back and forth between trains of thought.
Some are born to ride freight some are born to ride the highways.
 

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I feel like as soon as you start trying to identify as one thing or another, you start to go wrong?
on a related note, I'm not sure about others but the "hippies" I cannot fucking stand are the ones who worship flower power as if it was some sort of god and always talk about how great they thought woodstock probably was and how things must have been so much better with all the peace and love and understanding. they're chasing a dream that probably never fucking existed by trying to reminisce about things they never experienced. but there's that kind of thing with punksters and ska kids and everyone too I guess, this is just where I notice it the most.

and I'm trying not to be too much of a douche about it, obviously I was not there to experience said events either, but why not go out and actually do shit instead of thinking about doing shit in order to formulate some kind of ideal image?
 

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as a young teenager back in 1967 I was smoking marijuana back then. It was better than alcohol. Now marijuana is grown with all different strengths., for all different types of medical conditions as well. It just boils down to finding the smoke that makes you enjoy the high not scare the shit out of you.
You are correct in saying to not lump the word hippie as a negative statement. I get it all the time. but it's not what's on your head but what in it!
Just a short comment regarding the hippie movement as I see it. It has repeated itself in Madison WI. The hippy movement was a way of life devoted to the idea that change or oppression and bigotry can be stopped with love and understanding, music and art. With open discussion and debate based on facts not a wet dream like the Kennedy,Johnson,Nixon, Ford era of violence. They promoted oppression of men and women's right to choose what is right for their own body. That wet dream continues to this day.
A sloppy surprise that makes you feel good but embarrassing if found out by the people around you.
Talk to me when you see me. I'm not afraid to defend what make me tick. It's the same as you. Except we use different words to describe the same thing.
Jean Andre Vallery :)
 

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I used to hate hippies when I was younger. But after living around schizophrenic veterans and gangs, having had friends murdered, etc, I'm now at the point where I have an entirely different perspective on a lot of what would be considered hippie values. You don't have to be a passive person to believe that killing people is generally not a good thing. After hanging out with travelers who consider boot parties to be a recreational activity, I'm just as wary of drunk scumfucks as anyone else. The hippie subculture is still not the crowd I feel most comfortable around but I've come to appreciate their values a lot more than I did before. Even so, I will never be able to hold hands in a circle and om like they do at the Rainbow Gathering! That shit freaks me out!!!!
 

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