Real Anarchists Don't Breed

[mittens]

Sometimes things are just taken to far. What is this some sort of game?

"Oh whats that johnny? You have got a kid! You are no anarchist you dominated capitalistic pig!"

I swear some anarchists just take things to far so they can make themselves feel like more of an anarchist than the next guy. Ridiculous.

What if you want to raise a child. What if thats what makes you happy in life?

I agree with you the most so far.

 

[mittens]

Now if you have said WHITE people should not reproduce, I would agree. Then again, it's not my choice so it doesn't fucking matter. In general though, I would prefer not further add to the privilege pool.

Look, pall. I'm white. This post really pissed me off. It does sound like you were kind of tired when you posted this, so like fuck, Okay, but that is what the fucking 'edit post' button is for, buddy.

Do you honestly feel that because I'm white I deserve to have my Fucking nuts chopped off.

I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of the posts here because buddy was right. some shit gets taken way too far. Fighting for your right to Choose what you want and Think for yourself makes makes you an Anarchist! Not becoming a fucking IT!

 

[farmer john]

what if i was only a lil white ? am i allowed to breed then?

 

[mittens]

what if i was only a lil white ? am i allowed to breed then?

You might be able get an operation for that. M.J. found a way to make himself white. Talk to the right people... they could make it happen, but If that fails you can just go to a tanning salon.

 

[farmer john]

lol i was just curious im 200 proof white but wantd to knof if the sterilization specialist had contingency plans for half and quarter breeds

 

[pigeon]

i'm just going to throw my two cents in without reading what everyone said but can you be and anarchist if you are making rules to be on how to be an anarchist? i don't think so.

 

[vandalette]

"It starts in this parking lot, and in my dreams, I am dirty broke beautiful and free. My hands clenched in a fist, and my face in a smile, after hitching too many miles. "

^^^whats this quote from? If its your own i'd like to quote you :]

 

[wokofshame]

its from Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains . look him up on Myspace.. good shit

PS fuck off dipshit peoples posting on this thread...get a fuckiong life

 

[anyways]

its from Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains . look him up on Myspace.. good shit

PS fuck off dipshit peoples posting on this thread...get a fuckiong life

I didn't even read this thread yet, but this is what my screen brought me to first. Just so you know, as catchy and lyrically decent as Johnny Hobo is... I've heard from a bunch of people that the kids a poser and has never been on a train in his life...hence the bands name change to Wingnut Dishwashers Union (who also have good songs if you haven't heard em)

I don't hate the kid, but thought it might be of interest to you to know that if you didn't yet... It's pretty stupid to make it seem like you're a rider when you're not........

 

[vandalette]

yeah i've listened to him before, just never really have too much time on the computer to know there lyrics.

 

[joaquim33]

if progressive minded people dont breed then pretty soon its just gonna be mormons and other assorted morons out there. whats more important to discuss is not whether or not to have kids, but how to raise them so they think for themselves.

and i dont think pat aka johhny hobo has ever written a song about or claimed to ride trains. the name is meant to be ironic; songs coming from the perspective of a young middle class kid who looks up to crust punks who ride through his bucolic new england town.

 

[ayron]

people that claim to be anarchists, have kids, and raise them in front of tv's, in suvs, and using disposable diapers, i agree are not real anarchists at all and are not ready to have kids in the first place. but if you claim to be an anarchist, have kids, and raise them in a diy culture, educate them yourself, treat them like equals and show them what it means to be an anarchist, then your creating another free person whos very existance is destructive to the imperial capitalist state.

the point is, if your not ready to breed and stay integral being and raising anarchy, then dont.

 

[veggieguy12]

...if you claim to be an anarchist, have kids, and raise them in a diy culture, educate them yourself, treat them like equals and show them what it means to be an anarchist, then your creating another free person whos very existance is destructive to the imperial capitalist state.

How is anyone who lives and consumes within/as part of a capitalist society destructive to that system?
One day, a person may be the V.I. Lenin (or better) and topple the capitalist system in which s/he lived, but living (i.e., buying food, clothes, renting/buying property for residence, paying taxes) in the system makes one complicit in its existence. And dropping out resolves that participation in the system, but doesn't actively counter the system.

So just being of a certain mind is not going to do shit; only certain actions will amount to a life "destructive to that system".

 

[Mayor Cantrell]

Yeah. Johnny Hobo sings oogle anthems.

He's never ridden a freight train in his life but supposedly he writes about his friend's lives. Which, to be fair, is something a lot of song writers do. Many people write about things they've never done. However, it's a bit problematic to write about train hopping if one has never done it. You can't know what it is to ride a train without actually having done it. And also, with the more music and art about freight trains that comes out about trains, the more idiots will emerge that want to ride trains. So I don't know.

 

[emc]

weve got to realize that as violent and unpredictable as nature is, it gave birth to us. if it wasnt this way, we would never have come about. it wouldnt be an 'advance' in nature to remove humans since it would inevitably repeat the process of forming us again either here or somewhere else. i mean, the greatest advance fish came up with was to crawl on land to become birds... which prey on fish when they need to. most tribal cultures had an initiation process by which their kids became adults. they would have to go on a dangerous hunt or something, but now they just go to college. it forms the consumer class which is kind of like a primordial soup. they are a class of maintenance which allows life to continue but stays pretty much the same for their whole lives. they have no desire to take the kinds of risks other people do... on the other hand, risk takers who stay that way for their whole lives come up with the kinds of experiments which make life worthwhile though they themselves often do not reproduce. the idea of settling down for a normal life is repugnant to them in some cases. anyway, the native americans were conquered by the europeans. the only reason the europeans were in that position was because of their proximity to a variety of other cultures which forced/enabled them to do so whereas the natives were more or less isolated. this was the only way of carrying the natives into a unified modern age... however, the only way for us to survive in it is to learn some lessons from the natives and make it a place where they can exist. iniquity always results in bloodshed and evolution tends toward greater equality. in other words, as adventurers, anarchists, whatever, we are in fact leading the charge to make civilization more civilized. still, at least some people are going to have to contribute to future generations in order for any of our ideas to have an impact. whatever, these things go in cycles. idk, fuck ive been reading a lot of history lately so its good to lay some thoughts out there. interesting topic yall.

 

[ChikhaiBardo]

I don't have sex.

 

[Pheonix]

if you really want your child to become an anarchist than throw them in the foster care system. the department of child services have taught more confessed and unwanted children how to hate the system then any of us can.

 

[spoon]

Shut up!
(btw i did not read a single post in this thread and I have no idea what its about)

 

[Nelco]

Real Anarcho's don't give up any of their rights for politics sake, including the right to breed.

 

[Heron]

if the comic at the top summed up the rest of the content, then ill say 1. environmentalism =/= anarchism and 2. you don't need to burn down a tropical rainforest and start a chinese toy factory to take care of your babiez.

sure populations out of hand and any kids you have are probably going to end up as dead as the rest of us when the shit hits the fan, but i don't think it's a very good point really.