Real Anarchists Don't Breed

[liberationmoves]

Less humans = more freedom for the humans here and the chance to have species diversity and environmental diversity.

More humans = more animal torture , less diversity of animal species and less freedom for humans on the planet.

The wise choice is simple.

 

[shabti]

I want to be a father. Or rather, I feel a strong need to be a mentor to the young. There is a difference. I wouldn't mind helping youth learn to do permaculture... But I WOULD mind having my "spawn" get sucked in by American commercialism. It would make me feel awesome if someday I could offer guidance, advice, support, etc to the youth of whatever community I'm in. If I could help them grow. It would NOT be awesome if I was responsible for explaining genocide, pesticides, homicide, and all that goes along with culture.

I want to be a dad, but I fear that I'd fail at raising a more radical and capable human than I. I want to be a dad, but I fear it's more selfish self interest than a legitimate need to nurture. Thankfully I'm young enough to give the matter some thought, but this much I know it's true: like everyone else, it wouldn't be an internet article to convince me one way or another. The circumstance, the mother, a lot of other things besides an internet article.

 

[notOK]

Real anarchists argue with real anarchists about what real anarchy is. For me, the most attractive part of anarchy's always been not having someone tell ya how things must be done. Plenty of people are dicks, and their nature is to be, regardless of their philosophical leaning or system they live under. There's enough for every person in the world to have all they need. Just some folk want a whole lot more than that.
These days you don't need a dozen kids to supply the labor to feed the family. I understand the logistics of the argument. A fair number of parents want their children to get a job without concern for what the work entails, in the grand scheme. But to say that one less child is one less soldier, worker, pawn is an oversimplification. More or less saying this world is too fucked, so don't have kids.
Kids can certainly be used to control the actions of the parents. And more kids meaning more benefits/tax breaks is a significant example of that coercion. Because feeding kids dumpster food can get them taken away.
It's a hardliner position, not without its merits. But it is maybe overly intellectual and denies the biological imperative to reproduce. And it only works if everyone does it, whileforcedcompliance runs contrary to the anarchist side of it.

 

[Kim Chee]

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Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.

 

[Thrasymachus]

This is the way I see it. Speaking for myself, I can barely function under capitalism. I think about suicide all the time, my life is a constant existential crisis, I cannot just simply live, everything is a big issue: when I am off work I am like a paralyzed deer in headlights and just procrastinate or have an anxiety attack -- when I am at work, I am like a zombie. If I hold a job for too long, I start getting caged animal syndrome and feel especially suicidal and morose till I hit a crisis and quit the job. I finally made enough money to support myself in my own apartment at age 32(I am talking without a room-mate here). I can barely bring myself to wash clothes, shower more than once a week, I don't care to meet other people(literally: if I don't write down people's names whom I meet, I will forget their names again and agan), I am severely underweight due to unhappiness preventing me from working out consisently or eating enough, etc.

Literally I cannot function in this society. Personally I don't call myself an anarchist, because I think it is an immature utopian movement. But say someone else did say they were an anarchist, but they could jump through the hoops required of them, and do all the right things according to the dominate narrative. They went to college, they got a high paying professional job, they convinced themself that they feel in love, then they bought a house, and finally they raised a kid. Isn't such person just a poser? They are pretending they are against capitalism and the state, but they are actually living and functioning just fine under capitalism and the state. I mean I cannot function properly under capitalism and even take care of myself. If someone can function under capitalism so fine that they can support another person in the conventional manner, how are they actually against capitalism? What people self report is very faulty. Probably they are functioning just fine if they made such a choice.

That is the part of the reason why I think anarchism is a waste of time, anarchists are just interested in being anarchists, same as punks just want to be punks or black metal scenesters are black metal scenesters. Also it is beyond funny that they didn't allow that group to table some lame anarchist bookfair.