ArrowInOre said:
Now, retired as I am, living in my rented box with a nice car and full pantry have to tell you, I got called an oogle a while back in PDX by some sign flying, booze reaking, agressively begging fuck tard douch. And when I stepped up to the kids face he immediately back down. He tried to tell me he said something else...but I heard him quite clearly... So I said to him... I had been out there before his daddy knew how to masturbate, and then proceeded to tell this kid that he was about to swallow his CC, he simply responded to me with a smirk and said, " Take it, I'll just buy another one." SO then I mustered up a bit of post lunch salivary goodness, and whack, into his face and I said " Really, you are the biggest oogle I have ever seen, learn some etiquette to spangin and try to look as faces first dick, and get the fuck off the sidewalk....Old skooler walking here" ...I think he may have been yelling that I was a cunt or some thing as I walked away, ands on any other day and move lk that surely would have led to his early grave...Had I not had Bolt with me, lol...Oogles, in disguise are the WORST of them all...
yeah that kid...definitely an oogle....
they are kids who run away from home cuz mommy and daddy made em cut their hair....they are kids who have been on the streets a month but apparently know life on the streets inside and out....they are kids who have been on the streets fer years but are still dumber than a bag of rocks...they are kids who are stupid enough ta ruin a penthouse squat on top of and old warehouse by throwing bottles out the window...they are kids who think that the world and society owes them something...they are the kids running around seattle and pdx in their stupid little street families...they are the kids that after 3 min of talking to you the only thing you can think or say is KICK FUKKIN ROCKS YO....but most importantly they are they thease kids.....
this happened back in '02 or '03 i think...not to good with timelines too many holes in my head...
James Nelson, just released from more than 10 years in prison for killing a teen-age boy, showed up at a peace camp across from City Hall this spring.
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It was at the peace camp where Nelson, 27, met a group of homeless youths who would become his family. Known on the street as “Thantos,” he quickly became the father of a new street family – youths between the ages of 16 and 20.
Two months later, a member of the street family, Jessica Kate Williams of Gladstone, was brutally tortured and killed near the Steel Bridge. Nelson gave the order to punish Williams, known as “Giggles,” said Jeff Cameron, a self-described street kid.
“He was the leader of the group and he did give out directions of where to go and where to do it and how to do it,” Cameron said.
Carl Richard Alsup III, also known as “Death Knight,” came up with the idea to kill Williams for betraying the family and convinced others to join the plot, Cameron said.
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Carl Alsup. (KGW Photo)
The Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office issued an arrest warrant for the 17-year-old Alsup III on Wednesday. Police have received calls that Alsup has been spotted around Portland since the suspect’s picture was circulated in the media and on the streets, said Sgt. Brian Schmautz, a police spokesman.
None of the calls has led to an arrest. Police described Alsup as a white male with short blonde or brown hair. Police have received “no intelligence” that suggests Alsup has fled the Portland metro area, Schmautz said. However, some street kids speculated that Alsup may have fled to California.
The DA's warrant charged Alsup with one count of aggravated murder and a variety of other felonies. He's the third person to directly face murder charges.
Portland police officers on Thursday passed out fliers, interviewed people and scoured under bridges and surveyed hangouts for street kids in their search for Alsup, who is the twelfth suspect involved in the slaying of Williams.
Cameron said his friends complained that Alsup’s family leaders led by fear, beginning with Nelson.
“It attracted people that had an extensive criminal history, and it also attracted people that had a bad anger management problem,” Cameron said.
Suspects appear in court
The two other aggravated murder suspects accused of carrying out the slaying of Williams said very little during their first appearance in court Wednesday afternoon.
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The pair charged with murder. (kgw.com photos/graphic)
Danielle Marie Cox and Jimmy Aaron Stewart, both 18, were arraigned in Multnomah County District Court. In addition to murder, they face charges of kidnapping, assault and coercion.
Cox and Stewart were among eleven arrested Monday and Tuesday in connection to Williams' death. The others, ranging in age from 16 to 27, face charges of kidnapping, assault and coercion.
Portland police believe Williams, who developed close relationships with Cox and Stewart, violated some sort of group rule that ultimately led to her slaying last month.
According to a friend of the victim, who claims he warned police about her "street family," Williams was killed for being "a liar and a snitch."
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Danielle Marie Cox (left rear- wearing blue) is arraigned. (kgw.com photo/Abe Estimada)
Cassie Jean Hale, Joshua Ryan Brown-Lenon and Crystal Ann Grace, all dressed in blue jail uniforms, also said little to Multnomah County Judge Cheryl Albright during their appearances Wednesday. Heidi Lee Keller appeared via closed-circuit TV for her arraignment.
Nelson and Steven Scott Pearce were arraigned on Tuesday. Sarah La'dona Caster, 17, will be prosecuted in adult court. Assault in the second degree is a Measure 11 crime, which means that anyone 15 and older committing this felony will be charged as an adult.
Cordell Dennison wept and shook his head repeatedly as the court read the assault, coercion and kidnap charges against him.
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Members of Williams' "street family." (kgw.com graphic)
Also facing assault, coercion and kidnap charges are Nelson; Hale, 20; Dennison, 19; Keller, 20; Pearce, 20; Brown-Lenon, 20; Grace, 19; Caster, 17; and Crystal Elliot, 16.
Dennison's emotions reflected those of the roiling crowd that had waited outside the courtroom before the arraignment to hear word of the court proceedings.
"Who in their right mind would do something like this?" said Heather Cramer, 23, a former street kid. "It's sickening...These kids are not a normal street family. They are not condoned down here."
Details of murder case emerge
Long-term homeless youths generally join so-called street families for mutual support. The families have a “mother” and a “father,” although members generally have no biological ties, police said. The rules vary depending on the family.
Police did not say what rule Williams violated, but Jeff Cameron -- who claims to be a friend of Williams -- provided details to reporters outside court.
Cameron said Williams was killed because she told police that another member of her street family had tried to make her into a prostitute. Some members of the family beat up the young man before they found out it wasn't true, the teen said.
"The moment she said something to the police, they were going to nail her right then and there," Cameron said as he stood outside the courtroom where the suspects appeared for arraignment.
"Jessica was labeled as a liar and a snitch," Cameron said. "They were going to finish the job. Why not just kill her?"
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An investigator examines the murder scene. (KGW Photo)
While investigators said they cannot release details about the death, court documents obtained by KGW on Wednesday outlined the attack.
The documents indicate investigators believe the youth gang hit and kicked Williams before stabbing her to death and setting her on fire underneath the Steel Bridge. Her body was later found between the Eastbank Esplanade and the bridge by a Union Pacific railroad engineer on May 23.
Cameron gave a similar account of the attack. He said members of the street family kicked Williams, hit her with a belt, burned the palms of her hands with lighters and burned her face with cigarettes before one of the family leaders, Alsup,ordered her killed.
Williams' family background
Although Williams had a family and home, she frequently spent time in downtown Portland -- where she worked and occasionally spent nights at a homeless shelter for youths.
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Jessica Kate Williams. (KGW Photo)
Williams grew up in a family of 14 children. Despite her imposing 6-foot-4, 230-pound figure, her adoptive parents said she was born with fetal alcohol syndrome and had the mental capacity of a 12-year-old child.
"I don't know how people can show so much hate to someone else,” said her sister, Noel Williams, 18. “I don't understand it."
Her friend, Amanda Nelsen, 21, who lived on the street for four years before finally finishing her high school degree and enrolling in college this fall, said Williams "would never hurt anybody — she was always so nice to everybody."
Nelsen said that the street family had a saying for members who betrayed it — "snitches get stitches."
But Nelsen said she was shocked by the killing, never suspecting the family would go that far.
Street life can turn violent
Youth shelter managers, police and health workers say violence is common among street families but it is generally minor and typically serves as a way for teens to prove worthy of respect by peers.
"We don't want the entire homeless youth population to be stigmatized by this, but the other reality is that it can be a violent subculture," said Kathy Oliver, director of Outside In, one of the main youth shelters in Portland.
Teens often band together on the street because there is safety in numbers and they want to be with people their own age they feel they can trust, said Dr. Wayne Sells, an Oregon Health & Science University pediatrician who works with the homeless.
"Homeless youth do depend on each other, whether on the street or in shelters, to watch each other's back," Sells said, noting that such relationships quickly turn into a surrogate family.
But as with families, conflicts are inevitable, according to Randy Blazak, a Portland State University sociology professor who has written a book the subculture of homeless youth titled "Renegade Kids, Suburban Outlaws."
The "street family" also can foster hostility to the outside world while enforcing conformity among its members, adding to the stresses of life on the street for young people who lack maturity and experience, Blazak said.
"Everything is 10 times more dramatic inside the street family," he said.
The National Coalition for the Homeless in Washington, D.C., estimates that 1.35 million children under the age of 18 are homeless nationwide.
(The Associated Press contributed to this repo
everyone is green at some point....you don't wake up an experienced squatter/train hopper/counter culterist...it takes time...an oggle doesn't take the time to become experienced...they just claim to have...hell most don't even travel that much they just waste away in their whatever cool little fantasy world they live in (an example would be all those juggalos) and blow up the spots real kids try ta keep up....anyways...
