Smashing racism on the road

[RSTY802510]

Either way this is good conversation hopefully this thread keeps going for awhile. - solidarity & respect

 

[Matt Derrick]

Has anyone seen this trend of crusty punx traveling around and saying all kinds of racist shit just cause it's funny?

I met some kids in Slab City last year that I thought were pretty cool, but then started joking with all kinds of racist words and stuff and when I called them on it they said they were simply "taking it back". Keep in mind that three of the kids were white, one black.

I think that kinda philosophy is severely flawed to say the least.

 

[LiveFreeDieFree]

Well how about religion? Want to talk about brainwashing?
You cant say one specific group cant do something while there are many other groups doing the same thing only on a much larger scale. Just look at the middle east.
What im saying is either you say nobody gets free speech or you endure what you may hear that makes you sick and take it in stride for the sake of freedom of speech. dont like it then broaden your complaints.

 

[RSTY802510]

Im not saying that they cant have freedom of speech but i am saying that there will consequences for people that go out and preach that kinda bullshit. As for religion i see it as pretty much being the same as a cult. religion is mostly patriarchal anyways. Or says that homosexuality
Is a sin. Most biblical religions are extremely fucked. Most non biblical religions are not so terrible but i really dont believe in any higher power especially ones that seems to be fictitious

 

[RSTY802510]

Has anyone seen this trend of crusty punx traveling around and saying all kinds of racist shit just cause it's funny?

I met some kids in Slab City last year that I thought were pretty cool, but then started joking with all kinds of racist words and stuff and when I called them on it they said they were simply "taking it back". Keep in mind that three of the kids were white, one black.

I think that kinda philosophy is severely flawed to say the least.

I hate that shit, just like kids saying no chomo. Rape and chomo jokes seem to be a common thing around those sorts of kids. Infuriating.

 

[Matt Derrick]

Also, I've NEVER heard of or seen a "peaceful protest" from racists. Their agenda is based on hate and violence to others, and anytime they choose to rally these beliefs someone is intimidated or hurt.

 

[LiveFreeDieFree]

If you're making your point at city hall without using any threats of violence theere should be no consequences whatsoever, even if your cause is considered taboo. Any different and it wouldnt be freedom.

 

[Matt Derrick]

I'm not arguing with the fact that you either support freedom of speech specifically for views you don't like, otherwise you don't support freedom of speech. I do however reserve my right to go tell them and others that racists are full of shit.

 

[Matt Derrick]

I hate that shit, just like kids saying no chomo. Rape and chomo jokes seem to be a common thing around those sorts of kids. Infuriating.

What's a chomo?

 

[LiveFreeDieFree]

Indeed. We all have that right. Thats my point. You cant crusade to take that right from anyone. Even if you dont like what they have to say.

The government has already enslaved us, why do we try and revoke what little rights we still have from eachother?

 

[LiveFreeDieFree]

Oh and I suppose the neo nazis vary from place to place but I have seen a few of these clashes and I can say I have only seen the neo nazis fight or do anything other than march with signs and a megaphone until provoked and assaulted by ARA members. If you google it youll see articles to support my statement.

 

[LiveFreeDieFree]

Of course theyve been watered down by the media.

 

[RSTY802510]

What's a chomo?

Child molester.

 

[Matt Derrick]

Oh and I suppose the neo nazis vary from place to place but I have seen a few of these clashes and I can say I have only seen the neo nazis fight or do anything other than march with signs and a megaphone until provoked and assaulted by ARA members. If you google it youll see articles to support my statement.

haha oh damn, those poor innocent racists. if it weren't for those damn ARA people!

 

[LiveFreeDieFree]

That comment is really immature. It just bring me right back to the point ive been trying to make. And also perpetuates the problem--that fucking boneheads think just because they disagree with someone that someones tongue should be metaphorically cut out.

I think im done with this thread. Instead of presenting an intelligent argument you prove why ARA and supporters are just childish fucking babies who only want to"smash the racism" because it sounds cool. You have to follow a certain set of rules when you oppose something. Otherwise you are pro dictatorship.

 

[LiveFreeDieFree]

Youll support criminal actions including assault and threatening people just because you dont like those people being assaulted? Youre just as bad as fucking nazis.

 

[LiveFreeDieFree]

People that say shit like that matt, make me fucking sick.

Read something other than forums.

 

[RSTY802510]

You turn a healthy debate into and argument. Quit trolling so hard.
Im curious.. How many ARA's have you been to? Or are you just going off what you see on the internet? After all you did say check the web,

 

[RSTY802510]

People that say shit like that matt, make me fucking sick.

Read something other than forums.

Then you my friend should stick to your NSM forums. Try travelling to different cities and get involved in actuall protest not just your crimethinc zines

 

[Matt Derrick]

People that say shit like that matt, make me fucking sick.

Read something other than forums.

you're free to disagree with me all you want, but now you're making it personal. keep going this route and you'll get banned.

personally, i think you're a fucking moron.