"artistic nude" please, stop showing me tits and telling me it's art.

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^^ hahahah good one. (art nerd too)at least dadaism was a movement where anything goes. the stuff I'm refering to all looks the same, redundant junk art.

yes, all art has been done t death, but I'm not talking about all art. I'm ranting about one thing that annoys me :)

and I'm not refering to the nude as by definition smut... I'm saying half-asses candy coated smut being passed off as art get's on my nerves.
 

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I totally agree with you!!! It's boring. .... We have seen this before....
Plus we constantly see half naked chicks with perfect bodys all the time!!! I Want to see some real women!!! I want to see some reason and soul in the art.
 
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i like ur point-of-view heavens_fall. not very often i make a comment like that. as to the ass i'd give it a c+, but i was in the navy. with that said, i am curious what the 'art' community should do and i use that term VERY loosely. i mean should they go ahead and say, "well'p, no more calling naked chix art,"; i rather doubt this would/could occur coming from the same community (and this doesn't imply you do or don't subscribe to the community as a whole) that took the NEA funds to post the virgin mary in shit or whatever it was (and i don't have an opinion good or bad there either as i'm a jew; it's an observation). i mean 'art', if you will, is spoon fed to the public by these people on high telling us what we should like and/or dislike. i think that's a rather dangerous proposition. i too feel abstract renditions are bullshit, but hey i'm not an 'artist'. back on point, so do we censer naked/emo/[fill in the pc term here] women or what?
 

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First of all, i would like to say, my idea of beautiful people is a lot different than most people...especially what i think a nice looking girl is...i'm hetro, and don't like what most guys like. My idea of a beautiful woman is not what most folks would think. Second..my father is a sculptor, and primarily sculpts the naked human form. He does a lot of youth, and a lot of women. While my ideals of what preferences might be are very different than his, i like the art...i like the beauty of nakedness, the beauty of innocence, and the art of the sculpted forms themselves. His art has nothing to do with sex, or manipulative tendencies. It does have to do with love, and appreciation, while still maintaining respect, honesty, and dignity. Not all Human form is without taste, and fucking garbage. Just most of it in our media whore mainstream pop culture is.
 
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I never mentioned a word about censorship. people can, and better, make what they want. I just beg that they get some brain cells and stop making stupid shit like what you find under than link. TRY HARDER
 

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thats a tit and i would consider this artistic....no its not my tit or my photo....
 
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that one's kinda interesting. it makes me think more about what's going on rather than nothing at all. it's not some hyper sexed nude and it's not trying to be sexy.. it's just real.

still not to my personal taste but whatever.
 

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Hmm see I just clicked on this link hoping for a bunch of dirty girls that wanted to be a part of my disposable camera art craze.. I swear I'll pay you when the book sells just get nekkid....
 

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I just the thread title and laughed. Jeez, have you seen Vice Magazine or anything that they have at american apparel. I can be an artist if i pose really awkardly, while doing something random while being topless.
 

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Some of my friends wanted to get Brodie to do pornography for them for a site that was to be named "ride me dirtyface." You know, for those people with a crusty trainhopping fetish... which I guess wouldn't be anyone with money... It was a hilarious attempt though!
 

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Yeah. The whole target audience for crust punk porn is broke as fuck, so I doubt it'd be the most lucrative enterprise...although they do always manage to find cash for shows and 40s...
 

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I never mentioned a word about censorship. people can, and better, make what they want. I just beg that they get some brain cells and stop making stupid shit like what you find under than link. TRY HARDER


Try harder ? Have you ever thought that maybe they are ? Try as any artist might, not every piece is going to make everyone say WOW !

I don't think I've ever met an artist that would think....... "Hmm, today I'll make some underwhelming, emotionless piece." Shit just happens, not everything will be spectacular.
 

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To be clear, art is whatever. I can't really say "this isn't artistic!" about something because that kind of defies the point. Some things are art to some people and a load of shit to other people.

That being said, I dislike nude art for a variety of reasons. My biggest problems with nude art are the sexism and humanism that are so ingrained in its history. I can't really speak on sexism in the nude art of ancient Greece because it is a bit less clear. However, during the Renaissance and the Age of Enlightenment the intentions of nude art were blatantly sexist. I don't want to write a novel, but here is the down-low. Nude art reinforced gender roles and ideas about female beauty. This really becomes clear once you read up on mind-dualism and sexism. I know, the two sound totally unrelated, but the connection is there. I would recommend reading Bordeau's theory about mind-body dualism being sexist if want to understand this better. The idea is that everything about women is related to the body and physical things. Women are supposed to be beautiful, sensual, fallible, corruptible, etc. Nude art from those times portrays women in this light. This idea really shines through when you consider the religious and philosophical views of the time, which were strongly influenced by mind-body dualism. Women are supposed to look pretty, and we are supposed to marvel at this beauty portrayed in nude art. Leave the "thinking" to the men.

As for modern nude art, it is pretty much the same story without the mind-body dualism. Nude art almost always reinforces societal notions of what women are supposed to be: playthings for men. Sure, we can obscure this fact by calling it art, but the intentions are clear. Women are something to be oogled over.

Lastly, I cannot stand the humanism in nude art. The idea that we should marvel at the sight of a human body is ludicrous to me. It elevates humans to place that they should never be. Humanist attitude has led to countless atrocities and grievances not only against nonhuman life, but to other humans too! The humanistic man knows he is better than the rest, and he is supposed to use his better judgment for the good of society, regardless of what other "common men" might think. Essentially, the intelligent elite know all. Rather than seeing the human body as simply an occurrence of nature, nude art encourages us to place it on a pedestal. Yes, the human body is amazing, but nude art does not show that. You are only seeing the skin-deep persona that you more or less see every day. To me at least, the real beauty of the human body is in the mechanics. This is why nude art does not impress those who are not infatuated with the human body. If the body is shown "naturally", we would not think much of it. Who calls nude pictures from a disposable camera art? The body must be elevated in order to impress people. If you are not fooled by the elevation, then of course nude art is boring.


Now these ideas are not meant to be taken as absolutes. Think of them as trends. There are always exceptions, and correlation does not prove causality. I apologize if this is a bit confusing and drawn out. My mind is scattered at the moment, and I am sure I left important stuff out. Please point that shit out to me so I can explain further.
 

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I never really looked at Renaissance nudes with any thoughts of sexism, but that's because I do think that the human body is beautiful.

I think the human body is incredibly interesting outside of an artistic sense. It's architecturally, biographically, and emotionally a very complex machine. Take the golden ratio for instance: Human Face

To me, nude art demonstrates perhaps the only perfect part of the human: the outside.
 
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if she wants to throw herself half naked all over a bedroom and call it art...its fine by me im just not going to look at it.....i believe art is what you make of it...and if its going to be half naked women tossing themselves around a crummy bedroom i dont want to partake.....mainly because its aim in my oppinion is sexual arrousal which i belive is something used and reused through art as a cheap trick.....hungry eyes will look they will devour the image over and over again which is its point......i dont want to gaze at the image to turn people to sex hungry fiends...this is down a road which i will not follow
 

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