If you like the converse look the Palladiums like the other guy posted are lime a real tough version, higher quality canvas, the company used to make aeroplane tires and use the same technology to.vulcanise the sole to the canvas they were used by the French military maybe still are, tough as hell and a good sole for trails and stuff not all slippy like a converse. On top of that theyre cheap compared to converses/vans at least here in Europe.