[Sep 17, 2011] Sept 17. Wall Street. Bring Tent. (#OCCUPYWALLSTREET) (New York City) (1 Viewer)

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Alright you 90,000 redeemers, rebels and radicals out there,
A worldwide shift in revolutionary tactics is underway right now that bodes well for the future. The spirit of this fresh tactic, a fusion of Tahrir with the acampadas of Spain, is captured in this quote:
"The antiglobalization movement was the first step on the road. Back then our model was to attack the system like a pack of wolves. There was an alpha male, a wolf who led the pack, and those who followed behind. Now the model has evolved. Today we are one big swarm of people."
— Raimundo Viejo, Pompeu Fabra University
Barcelona, Spain​
The beauty of this new formula, and what makes this novel tactic exciting, is its pragmatic simplicity: we talk to each other in various physical gatherings and virtual people's assemblies … we zero in on what our one demand will be, a demand that awakens the imagination and, if achieved, would propel us toward the radical democracy of the future … and then we go out and seize a square of singular symbolic significance and put our asses on the line to make it happen.
The time has come to deploy this emerging stratagem against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America.
On September 17, we want to see 20,000 people flood into lower Manhattan, set up tents, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street for a few months. Once there, we shall incessantly repeat one simple demand in a plurality of voices.

Tahrir succeeded in large part because the people of Egypt made a straightforward ultimatum – that Mubarak must go – over and over again until they won. Following this model, what is our equally uncomplicated demand?
The most exciting candidate that we've heard so far is one that gets at the core of why the American political establishment is currently unworthy of being called a democracy: we demand that Barack Obama ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington. It's time for DEMOCRACY NOT CORPORATOCRACY, we're doomed without it.
This demand seems to capture the current national mood because cleaning up corruption in Washington is something all Americans, right and left, yearn for and can stand behind. If we hang in there, 20,000-strong, week after week against every police and National Guard effort to expel us from Wall Street, it would be impossible for Obama to ignore us. Our government would be forced to choose publicly between the will of the people and the lucre of the corporations.
This could be the beginning of a whole new social dynamic in America, a step beyond the Tea Party movement, where, instead of being caught helpless by the current power structure, we the people start getting what we want whether it be the dismantling of half the 1,000 military bases America has around the world to the reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall Act or a three strikes and you're out law for corporate criminals. Beginning from one simple demand – a presidential commission to separate money from politics – we start setting the agenda for a new America.
Post a comment and help each other zero in on what our one demand will be. And then let's screw up our courage, pack our tents and head to Wall Street with a vengeance September 17.
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too bad this wasnt longer in the making/planning.......it seems like 2 months is a short time frame for people to plan on committing to somethin like this.......
 

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I agree with bryanpaul. I am curious how many people will show up for sure. But, I also see this as a test-run for something bigger/with better planning. We will learn from the mistakes of this, as will the police. We'll just have to take better notes. And notes on the police, of course :)

It will all be very interesting.
 

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well if i'm in that neck of the woods ill show up and make coffee and oatmeal with my lil' propane stove for my neighbors until i get arrested or what have you. This thing seems like a small step in the right direction. I haven't seen any major protests by the youth of this country since Philadelphia.

I have always thought what would happen if there was a rainbow gathering in a densely urban environment. The possible consequences made me chuckle.
 

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i guess none of you have ever been to a protest in nyc. anyone who tries to do this will definitely get arrested. both the ideas and the tactics mentioned here are really, really silly.
 

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I have always thought what would happen if there was a rainbow gathering in a densely urban environment. The possible consequences made me chuckle.

Hehe that would sure be interesting! I don't know how many actual Rainbow folk you'd get, though, tree-huggers and all that. ;) It would end up being a Drainbow gathering for sure, and people would be getting killed and mugged left and right more like...
 
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i guess none of you have ever been to a protest in nyc. anyone who tries to do this will definitely get arrested. both the ideas and the tactics mentioned here are really, really silly.

agreed. i've seen some things and some stuff, man.

seriously though, in the fucking capitol of capital?
 

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i guess none of you have ever been to a protest in nyc. anyone who tries to do this will definitely get arrested. both the ideas and the tactics mentioned here are really, really silly.

I think the point is for people to get arrested in order to radicalize the public. It's to display that we live in a police state and to get media coverage - that's it.
 

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ever see those water soda bottle rockets? ok make a shoulder fired launcher pvc tube. cover the rocket with camo tape. a paper nose cone with a jelly doughnut payload.
 

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... like i said, really fucking silly.

I agree with you on a very surface level, but, the implications of radicalizing the public and participants have the potential of being meaningful. When people see police brutality, it angers some of them. The people who are angry may in turn protest in a more....ummm....meaningful and effective way in the future.

But yeah, I don't think people think in strategic terms like that. They think "FUCKIN POLICE STATE FUCK FUCK FUCK". Which, well, I think is silly.
 

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if they can get that many people as a flash mob they could just all puke on wall street and take off leaving a river of vommit behind. and maybe spray the side with YOU MAKE ME SICK! or sumn.
 

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Well it is an Adbusters 'action' afterall.............
But saying that !
Where are all the folks willing to get arrested for what they believe in ?
The USA is in the state it is in not only because of corporations , the govt, Feds, Banks etc,
but because people are so willing to lay down and 'take it'..............
People complain about Wallmart - but do ALL their shopping there !
It's a vicious circle. Supply & demand.
We have been conditioned in the country to accept crap.
I speak as someone who has lived in the USA and the U.K.
 

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I'd be there if i was still in the city... hide your stash beforehand
 
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I was in NYC when the Tompkins Square riots took place in the late '80s and man, it was insane!!
Some guy came out of a bodega on ave A and got cracked in the head with a stick from a cop, it was no joke - but that was when the big apple was still rotten to the core and it was totally out of control. Since then, it's gotten real tame but at the same time TOTALLY under survailence....
But, no.... something like this has to be planned real quick otherwise too many of the wrong people find out.
I knew about this but could not break away from where I'm at.
But then again, I can't get arrested either - I've got my dog to think about now, ain't nobody gonna be able to take care of her the way I do, ain't no one around I could trust with her if something happened to me....
Sometimes I wonder who's really behind these rallies and if they are even worth risking ones neck for anymore...
I know, I'm getting cynical, that comes with age unfortunately, along with too much bad luck........
 

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Have they narrowed it down to one goal yet?

I loved the idea at first but upon seeing how disorganized it's been, I can only laugh. And now Anon is threatening to ragequit the NYSE...I'm having a hard time taking it seriously. But maybe enough people will jump on board and make something of it?

If Obama called you before Congress right now and asked what OWS' demands are, what would you say?
 

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I am someone who would like to see Capitali$m abolished altogether.....not "reform" it. And I know that I don't agree with some of the rallying points.....which there are many from what I gather. There are a conglomeration of "Ists/Isms" :Anarchists, Reformists, Dems. Repubs....etc. I do think constructive critiques are necessary to further the discussion...neg. or pos. But you know what: AT LEAST THEY ARE DOWN THERE DOING SOMETHING.

And if someone feels that strong of a negativity towards it: than start your own "MOVEMENT ".

Most Americans have been passive for to long....including myself.
 
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