The oldest fairy tale known to date

BirdDaddy

Born Wild
StP Supporter
Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Threads
10
Messages
218
Likes
165
Age
29
Current Location
Fairfield Idaho.
#61
Yeah, fuck all that history stuff, it's impossible to prove except with corroboration, anthropology, and archaeology. Let's talk about ghosts. Makes sense. On topic because...I guess if there's ghosts, the bible is true? I'm not seeing the connection.
I believe it was more of a comparison/ analogy thing than a stated fact. But idk I'm here with open minde. You should try it.
It's definitely a perception thing. As is most of this thread. And life...And perception being a relavenc issue upon belief systems built by life experiences... going into a ghost topic would surly change the topic of this thread. so I agree and will not peruse it here. But to go around demeaning ppl with a different point of view and pick apart there words so carful sounds like your here for a different reason. Try listining take some leave some, don't allow it to make you feel angry or bitter bro. Just let it be man. If you think it's off topic say so. Don't get agro.
 

roughdraft

Vagabond
Lifetime Supporter
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Threads
5
Messages
603
Likes
375
Age
28
Current Location
Hullinco, Chile
#63
i always like reading from @Dameon he seems like a guy who really knows shit. but i do gotta ask. do you feel passionate about history? do you feel like you're totally certain of any of it's accuracy based on what you said....archaeology, anthropology....? you trust all these corroborators ?
 

BirdDaddy

Born Wild
StP Supporter
Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Threads
10
Messages
218
Likes
165
Age
29
Current Location
Fairfield Idaho.
#65
I also agree with @roughdraft, @Dameon has an opinion iv found to be knowledgeable, informed and thought through. I agree with both sides of the history shit and allot of the other crap on this post but let's get real. It's all a matter of opinion and nobody is wrong so to say.
 

Matt Derrick

Nomadologist
Staff member
Admin
Joined
Aug 4, 2006
Threads
806
Messages
8,373
Likes
7,758
Current Location
Walla Walla, WA
Website
youtube.com
#66
not that anyone asked, but my .02 is that all religions are both wrong and right, and there is no one single answer to existence. in my opinion we're all one collective consciousness experiencing itself subjectively and nothing really matters except the journey itself.


so when reading over this, and getting upset at other people's views, or opinions of your views, just take a moment, breathe, and remember.

it's just a ride.
 

Dameon

Vagabond
Joined
May 3, 2008
Threads
31
Messages
730
Likes
495
Current Location
Northern California
#67
i always like reading from @Dameon he seems like a guy who really knows shit. but i do gotta ask. do you feel passionate about history? do you feel like you're totally certain of any of it's accuracy based on what you said....archaeology, anthropology....? you trust all these corroborators ?
I don't think that recorded history is 100% accurate and reliable, but I do believe that much of recorded history can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, which is more provable than ghosts, which was my original point.
 

roughdraft

Vagabond
Lifetime Supporter
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Threads
5
Messages
603
Likes
375
Age
28
Current Location
Hullinco, Chile
#68
I don't think that recorded history is 100% accurate and reliable, but I do believe that much of recorded history can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, which is more provable than ghosts, which was my original point.
the best i can do to convey my point is this -> i have not witnessed history, but i have witnessed what was either a ghost or looked exactly like one. i have reason to believe it was a ghost. i can't prove that it was a ghost but I (like to) think even things that cannot be proven can be true or real. lmao....
 

roughdraft

Vagabond
Lifetime Supporter
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Threads
5
Messages
603
Likes
375
Age
28
Current Location
Hullinco, Chile
#69
not that anyone asked, but my .02 is that all religions are both wrong and right, and there is no one single answer to existence. in my opinion we're all one collective consciousness experiencing itself subjectively.
well of course everyone should put their two cents in!! the most important part is not pinning down the subjective experience but knowing what needs to be known about it - as you say, the journey - and keeping one's emotions in check is a cornerstone of it, by that I have no doubt. i would say most real and avoidable tragedies whether they happen in an instant or are prolonged happen due to emotional mismanagement...but there i go, easy words to put together - now let's see if i can avoid fucking up my actions extensively today based on that concept. xD
 

Dameon

Vagabond
Joined
May 3, 2008
Threads
31
Messages
730
Likes
495
Current Location
Northern California
#70
the best i can do to convey my point is this -> i have not witnessed history, but i have witnessed what was either a ghost or looked exactly like one. i have reason to believe it was a ghost. i can't prove that it was a ghost but I (like to) think even things that cannot be proven can be true or real. lmao....
I've never seen the pyramids, but I've seen a little green alien in the middle of a dirt field. By your logic, little green aliens are more real than the pyramids. 'course, the problem is that the little green alien was something I saw while I was tripping on shrooms. Your temporary perceptions as an individual are unreliable; your brain can malfunction and show you things that aren't there or keep you from seeing things that are. It's easy for us humans to jump to the conclusion we want based on unreliable perceptions, when what we need to do is verify those perceptions through consensus and experimentation (some of the same tools historians use).
 

roughdraft

Vagabond
Lifetime Supporter
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Threads
5
Messages
603
Likes
375
Age
28
Current Location
Hullinco, Chile
#71
I've never seen the pyramids, but I've seen a little green alien in the middle of a dirt field. By your logic, little green aliens are more real than the pyramids. 'course, the problem is that the little green alien was something I saw while I was tripping on shrooms. Your temporary perceptions as an individual are unreliable; your brain can malfunction and show you things that aren't there or keep you from seeing things that are. It's easy for us humans to jump to the conclusion we want based on unreliable perceptions, when what we need to do is verify those perceptions through consensus and experimentation (some of the same tools historians use).
right, excellent. But is is easier to believe that the pyramids are there, same as the Eiffel Tower, without MY own eyes seeing it. rather than a complex series of events. Objective vs subjective right? I have seen enough photos of people standing in front of the Eiffel Tower, not easy to fabricate....in my opinion, history is much easier to fabricate, or really, any story. so that is not my logic.

As for the example of a little green alien while on mushrooms - my whole point in even bringing up ghosts is that I have ONLY seen them while stone cold sober - and they are not even the most controversial thing I have actually witnessed, again, sober as a rock. including when I was a mere child. I would personally never speak on things I had seen under the influence of hallucinogens in a discussion on {what is real} because that is just too easy to shoot down. How can we decide the brain is malfunctioning if I see something that resembles a ghost without ANY premonition of say....,wanting, to see one? or the presence of documented hallucination-promoting substances?
 

BirdDaddy

Born Wild
StP Supporter
Joined
Mar 22, 2017
Threads
10
Messages
218
Likes
165
Age
29
Current Location
Fairfield Idaho.
#72
I think we got off topic.
As far as religion itself why it exsist how it is used and if it is benifical to the betterment of man is is whare it was going...
Originally (I think...) that @george990 was just ranting on how fed up with how christians who are too small minded, closed minded , concrete thinking, black and white thinking, full cup mother fuckers going around spewing their opinions, forcing their beliefs culture and publicly pointing out the faults of others and Damning them to a fucking fictional afterlife so well known as hell just bc you don't have faith in a God aka "ghost" a "myth" , legend idfk nor do I care how you call him. Honest? I don't think anybody here does. The point. I don't see any other cults, agencies, or clubs of the like ( The Machine excluded) to be going around spewing all over everyone. It's fucking annoying and I get his point. I'm sure some of the nice LDS ladies I talk to about LSD have thought about what I said. Most won't give it a second thought bc their cup is full already... What I have always liked about STP is for the most part ppl on here don't think there cup is full. In fact I believe most of us here are looking for understanding, knowledg and a different point of view than the lies fed to us by mainstream media, culture, schools... Fucking History Books!!! For God sakes.... all I'm saying is let's stop quibbling over words, empty our cups a little and we could have a good conversation here again.

I personally agree with @Matt Derrick
not that anyone asked, but my .02 is that all religions are both wrong and right, and there is no one single answer to existence. in my opinion we're all one collective consciousness experiencing itself subjectively and nothing really matters except the journey itself.


so when reading over this, and getting upset at other people's views, or opinions of your views, just take a moment, breathe, and remember.

it's just a ride.
I get pretty deep in this kinda philosophy in my own way all the time. I love hearing other praspectivs, ideas and experiences bc as far as I am concerned all of our emotions, praspectivs, opinions and experiences are just as valid as my reality is to myself and therfore I can not condone anybody anyplace for anything they believe bc I can only hope to be able to relate enough to understand a hint of their respective lives. As is my struggle every day.
Have a nice day, I'm done here.
 

roughdraft

Vagabond
Lifetime Supporter
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Threads
5
Messages
603
Likes
375
Age
28
Current Location
Hullinco, Chile
#73
I love hearing other[s'] praspectivs, ideas and experiences bc [.....] I can only hope to be able to relate enough to understand a hint of their respective lives.
i feel that this is the best reason to debate, i hate when people want to dominate or prove themselves a "right" vs a "wrong" party. i see pushing the envelope in any debate as a way to, hopefully. procure a more deep understanding of others. and the more different the two perspectives, the more to be gained cheers man
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
spork. Travel Stories 7

Similar threads


About us

  • Squat the Planet is the world's largest social network for misfit travelers. Join our community of do-it-yourself nomads and learn how to explore the world by any means necessary.

Donate to StP!

Donations go towards paying our monthly server fees, adding new features to the website, and occasionally putting a burrito in Matt's mouth.

Total amount
$15.00
Goal
$50.00

Latest Status Updates

Holy shit, sure as fuck after 6+ hours of straight bike polo.
I am now on the road!! I spent money on the luxury of a nice ticket to Old Town San Diego, from there I will visit my godmother in East County and then hitchhike up the coast to the East Bay to visit friends and family. It’ll be in time for my 19th birthday!
The feeling of finally doing this is fucking amazing!
The Grayhound Fast:
Weed butta between saltines, and two beers to slam in the bathroom. Hoorah
Bey
OK, so, my pack is a military duffle bag that is somewhat old, and I'm not sure it will hold up to traveling across the entire continent; so I'm open to suggestions on the best (?) replacement to buy....Thoughts?
just got over a crazy bad cold
Revisiting Jesup, Georgia after what I did there 5 years ago. God, I can't fucking wait! https://youtu.be/dAv36v3nqFc
Bey
Thinking of the True North, tonight; strong and free...
I started a thread for the 2019 jambo, i'd really like to get your input on it! https://squattheplanet.com/threads/2019-jambo-discussion.37648/

Forum Statistics

Threads
23,397
Messages
213,620
Members
14,157
Threads in last 24 hours
9
Messages in last 24 hours
113
Members in last 30 days
894
Latest member
WanderAl