Squatting in Los Angeles

[FrumpyWatkins]

Your method for judging if someone came isn't full proof if the paper wasn't pressed by the whole door inside and outside the door jam. That way if the door is opened it falls, if you can't open the door, this technique isn't full proof. I would try a small piece of scotch tape door to door jam. I can't tell you what you should do, that's up to you. If you can't get in and don't want to forcefully break in, the choice in abandoning ship is obvious.

 

[LAchick]

Your method for judging if someone came isn't full proof if the paper wasn't pressed by the whole door inside and outside the door jam. That way if the door is opened it falls, if you can't open the door, this technique isn't full proof. I would try a small piece of scotch tape door to door jam. I can't tell you what you should do, that's up to you. If you can't get in and don't want to forcefully break in, the choice in abandoning ship is obvious.

That piece of paper was wedged in there pretty well. And if it fell why wasnt it on the ground. But I went back and wedged a small studry stick between the door. Well let u know if its been tampered with

 

[Feralninja]

Good info in this thread, more serious level taking ownership. I feel like an amateur now haha but I agree w not much squatting info comment. This thread delivers though, nice to learn.

 

[LAchick]

Thank u. I find it very interesting. There's definitely ways to do it successfully. I live in LA where housing is VERY expensive and there are more people finding housing non traditionally than ever. I personally am very interested in the legal route because that leads to less drama and more longevity.

 

[MolotovMocktail]

Moved from intros to the squatting subforum.

 

[LAchick]

Ok. How do I get to that forum? Im new here still dont know how to navigate my way through

 

[EphemeralStick]

@LAchick Go to the Main Page. Scroll down until you see the Squatting sub-forum. Click on it.

 

[LAchick]

I was asking @MolotovMocktail - but ok.

 

[MolotovMocktail]

I was asking @MolotovMocktail - but ok.

I would have told you the exact same thing. Don't know why you think @EphemeralStick deserves a negative rating for trying to be helpful.

 

[LAchick]

He got one because he gave one unjustifiably. This thing is silly. Seemed to be made up of a group of the same ppl sitting around liking each other's post and grouping up against new comers. Nothing even about SQUATTING as the name misleadingly suggest. Smh

 

[MolotovMocktail]

He got one because he gave one unjustifiably.

Yeah, that's not what the rating system is for. It's for providing relevant feedback about posts and using it for personal revenge is against the rules.

I'm sorry you feel like we're ganging up on you but that's what's going to happen when you aggressively reject the advice people are kind enough to offer you and misuse the rating system because you don't like the answers you're given.

 

[LAchick]

And what's going to happen in return is Im going to rate things the way I please. Could care less how it's perceived. And don't really care about your clique. I have friends in REAL life. lol smh Im done with this convo. Carry on.

 

[LAchick]

This has got to be the dumbest page Ive ever seen on the internet lol!!!! There absolutely NO point to any of this. A bunch of lonely strange people gathered in a forum rating "stupid" to get back at someone. Smh I thought this thing was REALLY About squatting. #Senseless

 

[Matt Derrick]

This has got to be the dumbest page Ive ever seen on the internet lol!!!! There absolutely NO point to any of this. A bunch of lonely strange people gathered in a forum rating "stupid" to get back at someone. Smh I thought this thing was REALLY About squatting. #Senseless

there's plenty of information here about squatting, i think you're just not really grasping how the message board format works; this is not facebook. in addition, you're being really rude to a lot of people. so just take a step back, relax, take a deep breath and start over. also, please review the rules in the help area.

 

[LAchick]

No its not Facebook. Its a SQUAT forum. So THATS what ppl coming seeking. Yet its about finding love or drinking beer as though this is FACEBOOK. And I can tell the ppl are lonely cause SO much time is spent replying to my threads. Smh Ridiculous. Rules? This ridiculous forum now has rules? Pointless.

 

[MolotovMocktail]

No its not Facebook. Its a SQUAT forum. So THATS what ppl coming seeking. Yet its about finding love or drinking beer as though this is FACEBOOK.

The forum covers a wide range of topics, including (but not limited to) squatting. Like Matt said, there's a ton of information on squatting here that you might find if you used the forum for its intended purpose instead of just antagonizing the people who are trying to help you.

And I can tell the ppl are lonely cause SO much time is spent replying to my threads.

You're continuing to to respond as well, even after declaring how stupid and pointless the site is, so I have to assume you're as lonely as you think we are. Nobody is making you reply.

Rules? This ridiculous forum now has rules? Pointless.

Yes, we have rules like literally every other online community in existence. They're pretty simple and most people have no trouble following them.

It's too bad it's turning out like this because it sounds like you joined StP with a goal in mind and people were eager to help you out with information. If you want to start productively participating we can put this behind us. If you choose to keep causing trouble, it's likely we'll ban you and there will be nobody to blame but yourself. it's your choice.

 

[VikingAdventurer]

Wow.
I just got around to reading this thread.

Amusing, in a kinda psychotic way.

This might be the only time I say this, but I really hope that person doesn't make it out to the Jambo, because online is one thing; but if I heard someone talking that condescendingly to my friends in real life, I'd be AWFULLY tempted to sock 'em in the throat.

Reading the forum rules and NOT being a pretentious asshole is not that fucking difficult, Lol! ::rules::

 

[LAchick]

No this is unwise and you are over thinking it. Do not create any digital footprint relating to your specific project details (like a fake posting), and lying about being craigslist scammed will just result in them not finding any relevant craigslist posting if you don't make one, that is if they were to investigate. Chances are they wouldn't give a shit how or why you got there, just that you are there.

The following is for the most part illegal activity/advice, be smart. This is advice for a potentially successful long term hostile takeover. If this were just some bando, I would say just walk inside.

Your best bet is to gain entry through a window or a door, this may involve damaging something that needs to be replaced. This period is critical between gaining entry, masking/repairing your entry, and changing ALL the exterior locks. This could be the difference between breaking and entering/burglary/prowling and trespass/criminal trespass or vice versa, or whatever relevant criminal codes apply in your jurisdiction.

Another thing to consider, like any good burglar would, is there an active alarm system. Even though the property is vacant and foreclosed, the bank or creditors still sometimes don't mind paying the extra bucks to continue the use of one of these. Easy way to find out? Go at night, sometime relatively early after dark, not early AM, and stealthily see if you can open a window (like a rear or side one). If you are able to open the window (or door), open it to its maximum range to trip any sensor, wait 30 seconds, close it, and walk away. Find a reason to be down the street, walking a dog is good, see if the police come by. Chances are there isn't an alarm, but you never know. If there is, find a new project.

If you can't force a window, you may have to get dirty and physically get inside (prying a door, breaking a window, drywall tunnel, etc.). If you are faint of heart and a law abiding citizen I would not recommend this. This is indefensibly a burglary if you are caught before you can clean up your mess.

There are all types of other home defense alarms, the chances of encountering an active one in a long vacant house are slim, but it is possible. There are also sometime fires alarms interconnected with these, don't fuck with smoke detectors if there is a integrated fire alarm system (often times a massive wall mounted red box in the basement/utility area, usually in larger buildings)

When I decided it was safe to enter (probably another evening) I would go in at night (through your tester spot if applicable) and sleep on the floor out of view (closet?) until the following morning (on a weekday), having everything I needed to change the locks and mask my entry point if need be with me. Don't do anything overnight, no lights. I would set to work like any worker would sometime after 9AM (it is LA, so maybe 11) and clean up any mess I made getting in, do any repairs, and change and test all the locks, and lock ALL the windows. Then I would casually leave and return at a later date.

Once you possess keys I would start showing up at random times and just going inside, and waiting, observing the outside. Even if people see you going in, they are too concerned with their lives, maybe you're a realtor, or a worker. It's not that serious. Don't act like you're doing anything you shouldn't be and people tend not to think you are. Do this at normal business hours.

After that I would assess the situation on a case by case basis of how much I really wanted to settle into this location. Do not run if you happen to encounter someone attempting to gain entry when you are inside, you'll only arouse more suspicion. I would be especially sketched about driving or leaving any vehicle connected back to me here or near here as well AT ANY TIME. Another thing to think about is don't dress like you are on tour with Left Over Crack when conducting any clandestine operations.

If you are to encounter anyone once you've gotten control of the building, it's up to you to see what you could pull off telling them. I personally like reversing the script and asking what they think they are doing there. There are all sorts of things you could say depending who shows up. The police legally can't force their way into the building, that doesn't mean they won't, they're just not supposed to. So don't answer the door if they arrive at some point. Encountering anyone before successfully gaining control looks pretty bad and chances are you're up shits creek and probably should move on.

If you chose to move in and actually dwell here and someone comes to tell you to get out. Tell them it is your house and you live here, you have keys, and hopefully at this point, other things tying you to the house. You do not legally have to disclose who your landlord is or how you got possession of the house. The police, if involved, will try and tell you that you have to, and blah blah blah, and maybe even force you. Keep reminding them that this is a civil matter, whoever wants you out has no paperwork with your name on it saying you are a tenant, and therefore you must be removed by a judge. It is very easy to cave to police pressure. But if everything goes good, you'll eventually be summoned to civil court, to prove it's your house. Postpone this and drag it out. Hopefully none of that will apply to you and you can live there without having to deal with that.

Bring others in to live with you too, power in numbers, free housing for everyone. End homelessness, wrench the system.

Found a place in Bel Air. Fo

Wow.
I just got around to reading this thread.

Amusing, in a kinda psychotic way.

This might be the only time I say this, but I really hope that person doesn't make it out to the Jambo, because online is one thing; but if I heard someone talking that condescendingly to my friends in real life, I'd be AWFULLY tempted to sock 'em in the throat.

Reading the forum rules and NOT being a pretentious asshole is not that fucking difficult, Lol! ::rules::

Wow.
I just got around to reading this thread.

Amusing, in a kinda psychotic way.

This might be the only time I say this, but I really hope that person doesn't make it out to the Jambo, because online is one thing; but if I heard someone talking that condescendingly to my friends in real life, I'd be AWFULLY tempted to sock 'em in the throat.

Reading the forum rules and NOT being a pretentious asshole is not that fucking difficult, Lol! ::rules::

Dude get TF off my thread. This is old. We' ve all moved on. Do the same and stop coming in weeks later trying to drum up old drama cause your lonely, bored and have no life outside the internet. Smh

 

[LAchick]

No this is unwise and you are over thinking it. Do not create any digital footprint relating to your specific project details (like a fake posting), and lying about being craigslist scammed will just result in them not finding any relevant craigslist posting if you don't make one, that is if they were to investigate. Chances are they wouldn't give a shit how or why you got there, just that you are there.

The following is for the most part illegal activity/advice, be smart. This is advice for a potentially successful long term hostile takeover. If this were just some bando, I would say just walk inside.

Your best bet is to gain entry through a window or a door, this may involve damaging something that needs to be replaced. This period is critical between gaining entry, masking/repairing your entry, and changing ALL the exterior locks. This could be the difference between breaking and entering/burglary/prowling and trespass/criminal trespass or vice versa, or whatever relevant criminal codes apply in your jurisdiction.

Another thing to consider, like any good burglar would, is there an active alarm system. Even though the property is vacant and foreclosed, the bank or creditors still sometimes don't mind paying the extra bucks to continue the use of one of these. Easy way to find out? Go at night, sometime relatively early after dark, not early AM, and stealthily see if you can open a window (like a rear or side one). If you are able to open the window (or door), open it to its maximum range to trip any sensor, wait 30 seconds, close it, and walk away. Find a reason to be down the street, walking a dog is good, see if the police come by. Chances are there isn't an alarm, but you never know. If there is, find a new project.

If you can't force a window, you may have to get dirty and physically get inside (prying a door, breaking a window, drywall tunnel, etc.). If you are faint of heart and a law abiding citizen I would not recommend this. This is indefensibly a burglary if you are caught before you can clean up your mess.

There are all types of other home defense alarms, the chances of encountering an active one in a long vacant house are slim, but it is possible. There are also sometime fires alarms interconnected with these, don't fuck with smoke detectors if there is a integrated fire alarm system (often times a massive wall mounted red box in the basement/utility area, usually in larger buildings)

When I decided it was safe to enter (probably another evening) I would go in at night (through your tester spot if applicable) and sleep on the floor out of view (closet?) until the following morning (on a weekday), having everything I needed to change the locks and mask my entry point if need be with me. Don't do anything overnight, no lights. I would set to work like any worker would sometime after 9AM (it is LA, so maybe 11) and clean up any mess I made getting in, do any repairs, and change and test all the locks, and lock ALL the windows. Then I would casually leave and return at a later date.

Once you possess keys I would start showing up at random times and just going inside, and waiting, observing the outside. Even if people see you going in, they are too concerned with their lives, maybe you're a realtor, or a worker. It's not that serious. Don't act like you're doing anything you shouldn't be and people tend not to think you are. Do this at normal business hours.

After that I would assess the situation on a case by case basis of how much I really wanted to settle into this location. Do not run if you happen to encounter someone attempting to gain entry when you are inside, you'll only arouse more suspicion. I would be especially sketched about driving or leaving any vehicle connected back to me here or near here as well AT ANY TIME. Another thing to think about is don't dress like you are on tour with Left Over Crack when conducting any clandestine operations.

If you are to encounter anyone once you've gotten control of the building, it's up to you to see what you could pull off telling them. I personally like reversing the script and asking what they think they are doing there. There are all sorts of things you could say depending who shows up. The police legally can't force their way into the building, that doesn't mean they won't, they're just not supposed to. So don't answer the door if they arrive at some point. Encountering anyone before successfully gaining control looks pretty bad and chances are you're up shits creek and probably should move on.

If you chose to move in and actually dwell here and someone comes to tell you to get out. Tell them it is your house and you live here, you have keys, and hopefully at this point, other things tying you to the house. You do not legally have to disclose who your landlord is or how you got possession of the house. The police, if involved, will try and tell you that you have to, and blah blah blah, and maybe even force you. Keep reminding them that this is a civil matter, whoever wants you out has no paperwork with your name on it saying you are a tenant, and therefore you must be removed by a judge. It is very easy to cave to police pressure. But if everything goes good, you'll eventually be summoned to civil court, to prove it's your house. Postpone this and drag it out. Hopefully none of that will apply to you and you can live there without having to deal with that.

Bring others in to live with you too, power in numbers, free housing for everyone. End homelessness, wrench the system.

Hey - found a place - bel air. Foreclosure, not on the market. Gotta admit Im kinda nervous...

 

[VikingAdventurer]

Dude get TF off my thread. This is old. We' ve all moved on. Do the same and stop coming in weeks later trying to drum up old drama cause your lonely, bored and have no life outside the internet. Smh

Ha! Fucking adorable.

Please go troll someone else.

If I had no life outside the internet, don't you think that just maayybeee I would have commented sooner?

The fact that you feel the need to suddenly personally attack me on an "old thread" simply proves that not ALL of us have "moved on". Meaning you. You haven't moved on.

I would drive right past you if I ever saw you hitching.