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So I've stayed at a few squats now where I saw a very official paper on the entrances that stated that the tenants were tired of being harassed, and had legal right to be there. I just now popping my first long term squat am interested in a template of such document as to make my squat seem more official. I've read around and can not find anything similar. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm talking about

that said, How I'd proceed: find out what you can about the property (research) County records, parcel deed, tax history, etc. All the time keeping a low profile.
Every gambler knows data is key for calculating odds.

& you - you got long term intent to inhabit /occupy this place? Learn all you can regarding ownership of the property - is this an absentee landlord in a state institution and now the parcel is being administered by the city? I was able to inhabit a two bedroom unattached house six blocks from the beach in Venice for that very reason during the the 90s (last century). Knowledge is advantage so wise up
order whatever services you can afford water power gas trash collection etc. that is if you intend to establish some sort of adverse possession claim. anyway this all depends on where you intend to go with this
 
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Who owns it? How long was it vacant? Does it appear legally habitable?
I have taken care of that it is definitely a very good long term squat. i just want something flashy for the neighbors that call the cops. Im sorry but im not going to answer your questions for security reasons but, this isnt the first squat I've popped, its the first one i can forsee years in and i want legal coverage. I havent seen anything on stp about these legal measures before but I've seen a lot of long term squats with them. That is what im inquiring about.
 
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I have power in my name, the squat is completely secured. I know the previous owner and have talked to them, i know the local company and their workers that do the property preservation for the bank that currently neglects the property and they have a turn around rate of 5 years in the area. My question is has anyone else seen the declaration of residency on squat entrances?
 

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First rule of STP

Nobody here is master of their situation
(by my reckoning, anyway - else they'd have their own Food Network channel, like Paula Deen...)
- plan accordingly

we're all lab rats - scurrying through the maze of our wretched existence

anyway looks like you scored big
I'd keep it quiet - at least until you've made your first quarter million, then you can crow all you want

I don't know if you're shoehorned inbetween your neighbors or whether you got a fence; post No Trespassing signs (if those are well-enforced in your municipality)
 

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you're casting about for feedback don't worry about your friggin grammar

you're communicating your inquiry fine
 

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if it's owned by the bank*, then it's just a matter of time - hang on what you can and don't sink too much into it (money/resources-wise)

depending on the building, you could (by way of publicity stunt) inhabit it with families and become a local news cause-célèbre...

*The bank can afford to hang onto it until the right buyer comes along

Time could be five weeks five months or more than five years
 
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In all the squats I've been to and been involved with, I have never heard of this official notice posting you're talking about.

If the cops show, tell them you are the legal tenant, show them your utility bills and then it becomes a civil matter at that point.

Google homes not jails, the squatters handbook, and look at the squatting zine portion of our library for more information.
 

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Depending on your state/local laws, you may have viable legal limbo between tenancy & legitimacy

I say dig in your heels
 

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I know exactly what you mean - practically every squat in England used to have an identical photocopied sign stating that 'we are now occupying the building, it is a civil offence us being here and a criminal offence for anyone to evict without going to court' - if there is an American equivalent I imagine any US based squatters advisory services would be the best place to start
 

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Does the UK not have laws against criminal trespass? But I think what OP is looking for is binding sounding legalese to scare off neighbors. Just make a bunch of stuff up.
 
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Okay so im a bit more sober now. I've seen these declarations in nola and just last month in chicago. The one in chicago was so official i thought it was from the bank. But rougetrader has the idea, it's mostly stating "i am here and its illegal to bother me unless you legally evict me".
 

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Okay so im a bit more sober now. I've seen these declarations in nola and just last month in chicago. The one in chicago was so official i thought it was from the bank. But rougetrader has the idea, it's mostly stating "i am here and its illegal to bother me unless you legally evict me".
I'd really like to see one of these, if you come across a copy let us know, maybe we can add it to the file library.
 

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Yeah that was kind of what i was hoping would already be available. I'll be back in chicago in a month or so, and ill stop by and get a copy then.
Far as I know no official document says anything along the lines of "leave me alone and come back with a warrant" or something along those lines, but if anything I would reckon it might make cops or landlords think twice before knocking down yer door or maybe buy you some time to avoid a ticket or a b&e charge. If you do find something that even looks official please upload it if you can I would love to see it.
 

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Seconded homes not jails, i think its basically one dude who went to law school specifically to represent squatters (in cali)
For what its worth ive heard nm has some of the easiest requirements for common law posession; also, if you do get fucked w by the bank and you dont feel like going to war youre in a position to do cash for keys, settle out of court for like half what they would be paying a lawyer. This was a pretty big hustle in like 08 i think
 

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in reply to @blank - here in England the law regarding squatting residential property changed in Sept 2012 - basically it went from being a civil to a criminal offence.... this has had a major effect on the scene, it is a shadow of it's former self in London.....

regarding the original post can @Older Than Dirt our resident Judge Judy / legal eagle offer any advice ?
 

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