Indigo/Crystal/Rainbow Children, The New Age Movement, Healing Crystals, etc.

[AlwaysLost]

I respectfully disagree with you on this one.

There are multiple accounts, not only sprinkled throughout the Christian Bible, but in many other religions as well, where the texts mention and in some cases caution against or even outright forbid, communication with the deceased.

My father talks to me sometimes and has actually saved my life. But I had to burn my uncles belongings. My aunt was using necromancy against me.

I would also advise against contacting the dead. Its hard to turn it off once its on if your receptive to it. So stay away from the oiji board.

Sixth sense (prolly just intuition) has enabled me to do some wierd things but magic also makes me crazier.

"Always in motion the future is..."

Personally my life goes better when God is in my heart instead of Loki. But there are times when you need the darker Gods.

 

[Desperado Deluxe]

now specifically about contacting the dead, I didn't quite mean what I said but only about that. I believe its possible to contact the dead in certain ways but I definitely advise against it, also it just isn't always possible. the dead don't necessarily respond to the living should you try. magic is a whole different story. but psychic powers? no.


ofcourse we have spiritual being within us but I don't believe that it gives anyone the power to "read minds" or speak with animals. the sister religion to mine whom shares many gods with mine, called Asatru, has a magical practice within it called Seidr wherein the seidman practices something close to divination of the future and attempts to influence their fate. even that is very few and far between. also I would say some celtic magic has merit to it. but magic is a purely inward practice. you cant use magic to read somebody's mind. the gods would not allow you to do such a thing.

but everything ive said is pointless really. im not gonna sit and try to convince you. I suppose your beliefs are pretty harmless other than to yourself.

but the whole Indigeau Children thing is bullshit. there are kids out there that genuinely need help, might even need medication, that are being denied the help they need by their fucked up stupid ass parents who refuse to give up their preposterous special snowflake complex for long enough to realize they are transposing a spiritual idea(auras) from a mode of faith that they aren't even a part of ,nor do they know jack shit about but they appropriate it anyway, onto an impressionable young child who would easily be comvinced they are special( because who the fuck doesn't want to be special?) so that they can cling to some small measure of elevated status and wave their object of achievement(the child) around like a floppy huge metaphorical dick at PTA meetings or book club or whatever dumbass white liberal yuppie mom bullshit they go to. its ridiculous, completely ridiculous. harmful, shitty, unfounded, hippie bullshit.

Why won't your gods allow it? Do they not grant you free will? Magic is inward? Relative to what? imo magic is outward because your focusing energy inside of you and projecting it outward generally via ritual or other physical outward action. Could I use my psychic abilities to harm people? Yea but its the same as casting black magic its going to fuck me over in the end. Besides that it gets tiring hearing everyone else's negativity in regards to harming myself. All and all I find it pretty handy for numerous things I can tell how people perceive me if they're lying to me. I've found objects people have lost before I knew they lost it all kinds a stuff. Even though all you really need is faith to make it through this life I've found my gift pretty nifty.
About your rant I can say that may sometimes be the case but isn't one hundo percent.

 

[black]

magic that affects the anyone but yourself is pure luck in its effect. pure luck as to whether the god answering your call will grant it, therefore all effective, true magic is an inward practice. Idc whats tiring for you to hear. its harmful and you should be told so.

 

[black]

your idea that you somehow have powers beyond normal humanity is nothing but narcissism in its purest form

 

[black]

complete and total narcissism. and honestly at this point im not frustrated just a little sad. a little sad that you would feel motivated to act out in this particular way. its a very obvious symptom of a larger psychological problem or at least some kind of damage to your ego at some point. my rant wasn't directed at you. your mother obviously didn't spur you into thinking youre an indigeau child. i will apologize for being antagonistic. i cant blame you for something you most likely, and i stress most likely, didn't cause. its just hard to gauge whether you would do something ridiculous like promise a friend you could speak to their dead relative, and let them down. that would almost qualify as emotional abuse. do you get where im coming from? can you understand why thinking that you have these abilities can be harmful? lets say, for instance, a large amount of people believed in you. you become what qualifies to the outside world as a "cult leader", and youre getting a great amount of worship and attention. it could end pretty badly. it WOULD end pretty badly, as it always does. i just don't think youre thinking it through all the way. that's what im getting at.

 

[AlwaysLost]

your idea that you somehow have powers beyond normal humanity is nothing but narcissism in its purest form

I find your lack of faith disturbing...Don't underestimate the power of the force.

 

[DrewSTNY]

I find your lack of faith disturbing...Don't underestimate the power of the force.

Too bad I can't put two ratings! You are awesome, Lost!

 

[AlwaysLost]

Too bad I can't put two ratings! You are awesome, Lost!

Thanks bro!

 

[Desperado Deluxe]

your idea that you somehow have powers beyond normal humanity is nothing but narcissism in its purest form

I think anyone can do it. Because you can't believe that I can is why you perceive me as narcissistic.

 

[Desperado Deluxe]

complete and total narcissism. and honestly at this point im not frustrated just a little sad. a little sad that you would feel motivated to act out in this particular way. its a very obvious symptom of a larger psychological problem or at least some kind of damage to your ego at some point. my rant wasn't directed at you. your mother obviously didn't spur you into thinking youre an indigeau child. i will apologize for being antagonistic. i cant blame you for something you most likely, and i stress most likely, didn't cause. its just hard to gauge whether you would do something ridiculous like promise a friend you could speak to their dead relative, and let them down. that would almost qualify as emotional abuse. do you get where im coming from? can you understand why thinking that you have these abilities can be harmful? lets say, for instance, a large amount of people believed in you. you become what qualifies to the outside world as a "cult leader", and youre getting a great amount of worship and attention. it could end pretty badly. it WOULD end pretty badly, as it always does. i just don't think youre thinking it through all the way. that's what im getting at.

All that shits against my framework of morality. Also seeking power negates your abilities because your ego will corrupt your judgement. Honestly I think the world would be a better place if we all became more in tune with eachother and gained these abilities. Think about it we would have more empathy for each other wed stop lying to each other we would be more aware of world problems and be able to exist together more peacefully on this planet. Its peoples near sightedness that really fucks shit up. If everyone had these abilities life would be a more beautiful place for us all.

 

[Desperado Deluxe]

Also if somebody did want me to talk to their dead gramama it would be their fault

Leviticus 20:6“If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people

SAys it a couple other places too.

 

[black]

what

 

[black]

someone please shoot me in the face

 

[Desperado Deluxe]

magic that affects the anyone but yourself is pure luck in its effect. pure luck as to whether the god answering your call will grant it, therefore all effective, true magic is an inward practice. Idc whats tiring for you to hear. its harmful and you should be told so.

Then what's true magic? your being vague. And if you believe its luck then it would be coincidence and not magic but that's a dichotomy.

 

[Desperado Deluxe]

someone please shoot me in the face

well hopefully I did some good at decalcifying your pineal gland your welcome

 

[black]

Then what's true magic? your being vague. And if you believe its luck then it would be coincidence and not magic but that's a dichotomy.

to be clear, im not a magic user. I just believe it exists. so im being vague because I have vague beliefs. my spiritual beliefs don't often involve magic or magic users of any kind other than what amounts to fortune tellers and soothsayers(in totally appropriative and simplified terms). in my faith, Gods and Goddesses are the most powerful magic users(although its arguable whether you could say magic their because they are gods), and seidr are very very very few and far between. I will say though I definitely think the magic done by the celts has a little more merit than most. so, to me, there is barely any true magic and in the context of what I said I should've used a different word than true. effective might've been better. I will note that my opinions are pretty malleable and if you believe in magic unlike the magic I believe in I will not antagonize you.

 

[VikingAdventurer]

your idea that you somehow have powers beyond normal humanity is nothing but narcissism in its purest form

How do you define "powers beyond normal humanity"?

I think anyone can do it. Because you can't believe that I can is why you perceive me as narcissistic.

I tend to agree with this line of thinking. I also believe that all humans are ABLE to do magic, however some are more sensitive or less sensitive to those abilities.

Also some people choose TO do magic, and others choose NOT to.

 

[AlwaysLost]

How do you define "powers beyond normal humanity"?




I tend to agree with this line of thinking. I also believe that all humans are ABLE to do magic, however some are more sensitive or less sensitive to those abilities.

Also some people choose TO do magic, and others choose NOT to.

Agreed we don't actually know all that much about the human brain or all the varying behavior s of energy.

 

[Beegod Santana]

Anyone wanna buy a shiny rock?

 

[Desperado Deluxe]

I think magic is vague and relative. Anything can be magic. To spell it magick is to give it occult connotation. What you do may be magic but your intent is what makes the difference in spelling.