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Awesome post!

Just one clarification, though...Satanism (LaVey Satanism which is the only real Satanism...other branches/sects, etc having been started by disgruntled former members of the CoS) is in NO WAY, Pagan and to classify it as any form of Paganism, is a serious disservice.

Satanists are atheists, plain and simple. There is no heaven, no hell, no God, no devil and there are no demons, as in the Christian version of history.

The demons, Christians try to scare everyone with, are simply the embodiment of man's repressed animal tendencies...lust, etc.

An actual physical demon, Devils, whatever, don't, never have and never will, exist, except in Christian mythology.

They are the ones who 'need a boogeyman under the bed to keep them in line.' I don't mean that disrespectfully in any way against Christians...none of what I say is meant to be hateful, rude or disrespectful.

I'm simply stating what I've been told first hand (their words) by someone in the know.

Satanists don't. There are laws, The Laws of 9 and the Earth Laws of 11 that teach responsibility and accountability... not, scare tactics.

I am NOT speaking for the CoS, as I am not and never will be a member, but a dear friend of mine is a titled member in high standing and I have educated myself extensively, not only thanks to her, reading The Satanic Bible, but also from the official CoS website, which is packed with information.

Having a Master's Degree in religious studies, Satanism is one of the religions I have an acute interest in.

Again, good post.

Peace!
oh, so theistic Luciferians just don't exist, huh? I take a good bit of offense to that seeing as I dedicated a good portion of my life to the Morning Star. I may have converted but that doesn't mean Lucifer is any less a part of who I am or real as a deity to me. Also I would venture to say that you could call Luciferians pagan but that point is certainly debatable given the literal meaning of the word pagan.
 

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oh, so theistic Luciferians just don't exist, huh? I take a good bit of offense to that seeing as I dedicated a good portion of my life to the Morning Star. I may have converted but that doesn't mean Lucifer is any less a part of who I am or real as a deity to me. Also I would venture to say that you could call Luciferians pagan but that point is certainly debatable given the literal meaning of the word pagan.
I honestly could not care less who or what you worship.

If you'd bothered to read my previous posts/responses, you'd have very plainly seen where I very plainly stated that I have no use for religion and have no dog in any type of religious discussion, opinion etc, etc, so, save your indignation for someone who cares.

I was simply imparting the information I've been given by those in the CoS in the know.

As for being offended...Really? What would make you think I care?

If you can't participate in adult discussions on this website, without getting asshurt, you won't last.

Now...Ta ta, farewell, fuck off or whatever else it is you plan to do.

I'm not here to argue or be argued with.
 

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I honestly could not care less who or what you worship.

If you'd bothered to read my previous posts/responses, you'd have very plainly seen where I very plainly stated that I have no use for religion and have no dog in any type of religious discussion, opinion etc, etc, so, save your indignation for someone who cares.

I was simply imparting the information I've been given by those in the CoS in the know.

As for being offended...Really? What would make you think I care?

If you can't participate in adult discussions on this website, without getting asshurt, you won't last.

Now...Ta ta, farewell, fuck off or whatever else it is you plan to do.

I'm not here to argue or be argued with.
wow. whats all that about adult discussions? is it adult to immediately respond with defensive banter when I simply gave an opinion? being an adult doesn't mean I have to stay silent when someone says something ignorant. its not about me being offended, its about your claims. I would say being an "activist"(in terms of having some stake in the plight of other beings/exterior entity or believing in a cause higher than the self, inferring that you experience empathy as an emotion in some capacity) and someone who claims to have a Masters in religious studies would mean that I could open up a sincere conversation about a branch of a certain religion that you seem to be relatively uninformed of, or at the very least apathetic to. you obviously care, seeing as how your response was pretty emotional, as was mine. but that's okay. "do as thou wilt"
 

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wow. whats all that about adult discussions? is it adult to immediately respond with defensive banter when I simply gave an opinion? being an adult doesn't mean I have to stay silent when someone says something ignorant. its not about me being offended, its about your claims. I would say being an "activist"(in terms of having some stake in the plight of other beings/exterior entity or believing in a cause higher than the self, inferring that you experience empathy as an emotion in some capacity) and someone who claims to have a Masters in religious studies would mean that I could open up a sincere conversation about a branch of a certain religion that you seem to be relatively uninformed of, or at the very least apathetic to. you obviously care, seeing as how your response was pretty emotional, as was mine. but that's okay. "do as thou wilt"

If being indignant is how you claim to open up a discussion, then, yeah...Our conversation is over.
 

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If being indignant is how you claim to open up a discussion, then, yeah...Our conversation is over.
I'll give you that. I didn't really ask a question i just expressed how I felt. the topic is close to my heart and I acted rashly. i'll apologize. but my primary point stands and if you feel like responding go ahead. if not, i'll let it be.
 

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I'll give you that. I didn't really ask a question i just expressed how I felt. the topic is close to my heart and I acted rashly. i'll apologize. but my primary point stands and if you feel like responding go ahead. if not, i'll let it be.

So, I take it you're a Luciferian...Former, offshoot, or some other left hand path?

Let's hear your side. I have the CoS view from a titled member in high standing.

Fill me in on Luciferianism. I've studied, but not in depth.
 

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Religion is for the birds. The mighty all seeing and knowing birds... Personally I see the whole indigo children thing as a mild form of child abuse. This conclusion is based solely on knowing people who were raised as such. Fucks with kid's heads hard and then one day they realize they have major learning disabilities as an adult that never got addressed in childhood because mommy thought she had a space child. Just my two cents. It ain't as evil as say, Catholicism, but I wouldn't recommend it.
 

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I remember this one time on dead lot I left a tray of crystals on the dash of my truck in the hot sun for a few hours and then proceeded to sell em all in about a half hr because people could "feel the energy" in them. I even told a girl they were just hot from being on a dash but she was sure she was feeling something else. Whatever, I got paid.
 
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So, I take it you're a Luciferian...Former, offshoot, or some other left hand path?

Let's hear your side. I have the CoS view from a titled member in high standing.

Fill me in on Luciferianism. I've studied, but not in depth.
Okay so i'll start by explaining the difference between Luciferianism and LaVeyan Satanism, AKA the CoS.

Anton LeVay and his church are atheists. They do not believe in any deity or any literal "satan". Objectively, the Church of Satan is a tight-knit order who value self-indulgence, and whose beliefs are mostly based on a reactionary opposition to the values of Christianity, which included piouty, perceived subservience, and "helping they neighbor". You know this stuff. I'm just typing it for notation purposes, and to properly compare it to Luciferianism.

Luciferian Satanism

Luciferians, although very broad, loose-knit, and few, come in a couple different varieties.

Gnostics are similar to gnostic Christians. They believe Lucifer, as a spiritual being of knowledge, light, self-improvement, the Sun, permeates everything around them and that Lucifer is really more of a state of "enlightenment" to be attained by practicing perceived virtues and values therein. This "branch"(and i use that word with trepedation) of Luciferian practice has many parallels with LeVays beliefs in that the primary focus is on the self, sometimes even including the factor of total opposition to the Christian way of life, with the primary difference being that Lucifer truly does exist to them just only in a broader, spiritual sense than a Theistic Luciferian might believe.

Theistic Luciferians are the ones the believe in Lucifer as a true, singular deity whom they follow, worship, and attempt to emulate in their everyday lives. There are a few very very unofficial schools of thought within Theistic Luciferianism. I'm going to use my own made-up names for them just to convey the main points of what they believe and how they differ but i garrentee that none of them call themselves by the names im going to give them in this explanation.

1. Biblical Theistic Luciferians. These folks believe in the leader of the Satans, who they interpret as Lucifer, exactly how he is portrayed in the Christian Bible. He is the literal God of Evil, King of Hell, and the main opposing force to Christianity. He is in constant war with Jehovah over our mortal souls and his followers seek to aid him in this war. Like LeVayans they condone hedonism, and also bellieve in every other form of self-indulgence and sin you could think of. They hate Christ and his peaceful, pious nature and wholeheartedly condone violence, evil, Darwin-esque "the strongest survive and the weak are born to die" heirarchal structures, and everything that comes with it.

2. Lightbearer Theistic Luciferians (again this is completely made up on the spot by me and they do not use this name) are, like before, those who believe in a literal, meta-physical, physical, spiritual, and intervening deity named Lucifer. While rejecting many different aspects of Christianity, these folks tend not to really care about including any reactionary practices or beliefs in their worship. Their worship of Lucifer tends to be very individualistic, where developing a genuine, spiritual relationship with Lucifer is the main goal in order to better themselves. The focus of this brand of Lucifer worship is not really based in self-indulgent ideas and has many parallels with Christianity actually. Evil is not a focus in this religion and the Bible is not usually a factor whatsoever. Lucifer to them is a stand-alone deity of knowledge, self-improvement, and is usually assigned many other values and characteristics specific to those worshiping Lucifer. Sometimes there are those who include Demonolatry (not to be confused with Demonology) in their practices, where they will convene with Demons and Lesser Satans to obtain guidance and achieve many other things. This practice of Demonolatry usually comes with a slight more inclusion of Biblical belief, but not an all out acceptance of the Biblical representation of the Satans.

I was a Lightbearer Theistic Luciferian, as i have named them here simply for the purpose of highlighting their differences from others. Luciferianism is a very broad and blurry religion and some dont even see it as one. None of the name i used here are used by them at all. These are all my interpretations based on speaking with and reading about different believers. I have spoken with every different type of Luciferianism you could imagine and even though ive represented them as if there are clear-cut lines between each belief system that is truly not the case. Luciferianism is not yet very organized, there is not any prescribed doctrine, text, or way of living, and is largely defined by each individual worshiper. what i've given above is just a cheap, short, and basic set of overarching themes within Luciferianism.

I tend to be very opposed to LeVayan beliefs and ideas. I am no longer a Luciferian though. I am Fyrnsidu and i worship Thunor, Woden, Saxnot, Frig, and the like. I still really believe Lucifer exists but i think back then i simply misunderstood him, and misunderstood myself, and what i thought was Lucifer was actually Woden. Any questions?
 

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Disclaimer: I am not a Wodenist and do not associate with any ethno-centric branch of Heathenry. I tend to favor Thunor, the god of the common man.
 

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Interesting conversation, not sure how applicable it is to the original thread. I'm not sure the Indigo Children are born of Lucifer.

On that note, I have given some thought to the conversation thus far regarding Lucifer. @black, you really peaked my interest when you used the name "Morning Star." Not many people would refer to Lucifer by that name because they do not understand that he once held a position of the highest honor.

In my opinion, Lucifer rebeled his position as the Morning Star, the most powerful and beautiful of all the created ones in heaven in a bid for self-determination which was given to humans, but not the created beings in the service of Jehovah. He also wished to elevate himself above Jehovah and convinced many in the ranks to join him. War ensued, Lucifer, along with his legion, was defeated by the archangel Michael and his army. This resulted in banishment from heaven with the eternal sentence to wander the Earth with the humans whom he despised and considered beneath himself.

Lucifer and those like him were created with the purpose of absolute and abject obedience to Jehovah. Humans on the otherhand were created for relationship with each other and with Jehovah as his both his equal and vassal beings. Though the true power of the human race remains hidden, they are still more powerful than the created ones in that they have self-determination. Humans can out right reject service to Jehovah and follow whatever path they choose. The result is Lucifer's jealousy along with intense anger to destroy humanity's relationship with Jehovah. Lucifer cares not that humans would worship him, only that they turn against Jehovah.

I know that this is only my opinion, and is not necessarily held by anyone, nor does it consider the pantheon of gods that people worship in various forms; however, it only deals with the Jehovah-Lucifer based universe.
 

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on the actual thread topic, indigeau children is a ridiculous bs phenomenon propegated by idiot white liberals who dont want to think that their kids might have any kind of psychological disorder
 

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I feel I was born an indigo and growing up that wasn't nurtured properly and I had a fuck load of psychological problems because of it. Now I can read ppls minds talk to dead ppl and animals trees plants all that good stuff. All this ive developed on my own and it just sort of clicked after awhile even though i feel i was dispositioned for it. Im not all hippy dippy about it I can just do it. I'm actually believe it or not, a christian. Although I consider myself spiritual and not religious.
 

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I feel I was born an indigo and growing up that wasn't nurtured properly and I had a fuck load of psychological problems because of it. Now I can read ppls minds talk to dead ppl and animals trees plants all that good stuff. All this ive developed on my own and it just sort of clicked after awhile even though i feel i was dispositioned for it. Im not all hippy dippy about it I can just do it. I'm actually believe it or not, a christian. Although I consider myself spiritual and not religious.
you cannot read peoples minds or talk to dead people. I sincerely hope I don't sound like an asshole but you just cant. you cant. its impossible. its harmful to yourself to keep trying to believe that you can.
 

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I believe theres a giant bearded man in the sky who controls thunder and lightning and protects the common folk at large, so trust me, im not a normal dude whos an atheist and questions everything non-scientific. that's not me. I believe in spiritual forces. but no human is granted those abilities. those powers are for the gods and the gods alone.
 

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... but no human is granted those abilities. those powers are for the gods and the gods alone.
I respectfully disagree with you on this one.

There are multiple accounts, not only sprinkled throughout the Christian Bible, but in many other religions as well, where the texts mention and in some cases caution against or even outright forbid, communication with the deceased.
 

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I believe theres a giant bearded man in the sky who controls thunder and lightning and protects the common folk at large, so trust me, im not a normal dude whos an atheist and questions everything non-scientific. that's not me. I believe in spiritual forces. but no human is granted those abilities. those powers are for the gods and the gods alone.
You believe in spiritual forces then you must believe that we as humans have a spiritual force within us as well. That same spiritual force is what enables us to channel information to or from higher or lower powers. Just Like your god thunor. If you can't channel that spiritual force then how can you pray to him?
 

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I respectfully disagree with you on this one.

There are multiple accounts, not only sprinkled throughout the Christian Bible, but in many other religions as well, where the texts mention and in some cases caution against or even outright forbid, communication with the deceased.
I'd Like To Reiterate that I can talk to dead people but I don't for said reason and also kind of agree what @black said because yes it is bad for you just like the bible says. Also they're pretty pathetic really theyre kinda like homebums and you don't want em clinging to ya.
 

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now specifically about contacting the dead, I didn't quite mean what I said but only about that. I believe its possible to contact the dead in certain ways but I definitely advise against it, also it just isn't always possible. the dead don't necessarily respond to the living should you try. magic is a whole different story. but psychic powers? no.
You believe in spiritual forces then you must believe that we as humans have a spiritual force within us as well. That same spiritual force is what enables us to channel information to or from higher or lower powers. Just Like your god thunor. If you can't channel that spiritual force then how can you pray to him?
ofcourse we have spiritual being within us but I don't believe that it gives anyone the power to "read minds" or speak with animals. the sister religion to mine whom shares many gods with mine, called Asatru, has a magical practice within it called Seidr wherein the seidman practices something close to divination of the future and attempts to influence their fate. even that is very few and far between. also I would say some celtic magic has merit to it. but magic is a purely inward practice. you cant use magic to read somebody's mind. the gods would not allow you to do such a thing.

but everything ive said is pointless really. im not gonna sit and try to convince you. I suppose your beliefs are pretty harmless other than to yourself.

but the whole Indigeau Children thing is bullshit. there are kids out there that genuinely need help, might even need medication, that are being denied the help they need by their fucked up stupid ass parents who refuse to give up their preposterous special snowflake complex for long enough to realize they are transposing a spiritual idea(auras) from a mode of faith that they aren't even a part of ,nor do they know jack shit about but they appropriate it anyway, onto an impressionable young child who would easily be comvinced they are special( because who the fuck doesn't want to be special?) so that they can cling to some small measure of elevated status and wave their object of achievement(the child) around like a floppy huge metaphorical dick at PTA meetings or book club or whatever dumbass white liberal yuppie mom bullshit they go to. its ridiculous, completely ridiculous. harmful, shitty, unfounded, hippie bullshit.
 

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