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yeah in dangerous situations, like say a death valley banishee is on the loose and is picked up by his micro chip implant robot cops could spray him with sticky goo till unarmed police arrive or the anarcho scouts (yes i think boys and girls under 16 would make better cops) and they take the convicted rapist/child molestor/murderer back to death valley/bumfuck alaska/ dry tortugas where they belong. there will be no blue wall of silence with robots cops and they wont need lethal weapons because they cant die fuck or have babies. yes in 1840 an armed society is a polite society but if you have cameras everywhere and everyone has a cell phone with a camera you cant get away with much. think how many cops have been suspended with pay after beating a civilian to a pulp because it was caught on camera. i know its not justice but its baby steps. cameras are good everyone is a star.
 
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In the early 90s i came across the jolly rogers cook book of anarchy and my freinds and i proceeded to run amok in the suburbia we lived in and we believed that to be an anarchist we had to to fuck with the established rules of any establishment constantly toeing the line of legality where ever we went but as i grew older i realized that to be an anarchist required following rules and have come to believe there is no such thing as a self proclaimed anarchist because by labeling ones self as one you negate the principle of it but by ''simply living " and not caring what anyone else thinks or by living by your own rules by not actively trying to be one can you be an anarchist I have learned that I am a seperatist and a survivalist and an equal opportunity racist
 
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anarchism is a form of govt (that word leaves a bad taste in my mouth i cant spell it out) what that govt is is debatable. theres anarcho syndicalism (spain), anarcho capitalism (the wild west), anarcho communism, anarcho federalism, even anarcho nationalism (nazis) minarchism is interesting and could be the first baby steps towards a form of anarchist govt.
Do you really acknowledge anarcho-nationalism as a valid form of anarchism? A fascist by any other name would still smell as vile.
 

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no nationalism never leads to anything good http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Strasser
strasser insisted that jews were germans and could be national socialists if they converted to christianity. alot of jews took refuge in japan, mussolini never persecuted jews. you can see why strasser ended up in exile in canda he and hitler didnt see eye to eye. but stasser felt hitler took the socialism out of national socialism. and facism and national socialism are two different things. zionism is fascism its just called something else. no anarcho nationalism is a farce so is the american libertarian party. if youre exploting employees it just aint anarcho capitalism.
 

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my last post was a lil simplistic, but looking at this thread again reminded me of something. i know foucault gets written off as another wordy, pretentious, french philosopher type guy, but what i've read in his extensive works on 'power' includes some of the most insightful thoughts on the subject i've ever encountered.

he wrote that power is not "a general system of domination exerted by one element or group over another… [but] a multiplicity of power relations… Power comes from below; that is, at the basis of power relations, and as its general matrix, there is no binary and total opposition between the dominant and the dominated; that duality reverberates from top to bottom."

his books 'discipline and punish' and 'history of sexuality' are a good place to start checking out his analysis on power and its history and operation in capitalist civilization.
 

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To me, Anarchy is an ideal, and also a way of life. It's essentially the freedom to do whatever the hell you want to do that makes you happy, so long as you aren't infringing upon the happiness of others. There is no government, no elites at the top controlling the poor. Of course there are general rules, but those aren't so much rules and regulations but natural codes of conduct necessary to peaceful living among all the other inhabitants of our planet. This like I said sounds a lot better on paper, for obvious reasons the entire world isn't ready for it, but the ideal is still there to practice for the conscientious individual.
 

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ok too much to reply to. earthhomes said I 6 times pretty egocentric and said absolutely nothing about anarchy. Power comes from below http://imageshack.us/f/252/newcapitalistpyramidnt1.jpg/ lol gotta love those french thinkers. There is no government, no elites at the top controlling the poor. oh no not at all thats obvious just watch faux news. aztecs had the wheel http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/images-1/122_00_2.jpg the mayan calender it 3 gears (wheels) stonehenge is a wheel just because wooden wheels rotted doesnt meant they didnt exist in the past. trains have wheels paleolithic man had no trains. lol
 

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wow thats alot to read you must be a writer. im not flaming im not fighting i cant even spell or write. im just saying anarchy is a form of government and a political theory. there have been and are anarchists societys they have rules, police and militias. some even have churches. thats society dont like society live outside of it like far outside. when you finally meet up with like minded wild people you will set up dwellings, businesses, trade, commerce, there will be long town meetings arguing well past bedtime. you will have to get up early and work for this society. babies will be born you will have obligations doctors engineers will be needed. lazy consumers of chemicals will have no value in this society. you run away from society to set up another society with youre oh so hated rules and laws. no kudos anyone who can avoid paying taxes is helping bring the evil empire down. its great you like drinking fine any idiot can drink them self to death but i shouldnt have to pay for your free healthcare because unfortunatley i do pay some tax. im also poor i roll my own cigarettes dont bum a cigarette from me and expect me to roll it for you because youre used to box cigs. everyone has the right to be lazy as long as they dont depend on anyone else to survive thats anarchy in theory emma goldman. prostitution is work, street theater is work, fortune telling busking etc. shouving a pillow under your shirt and flying a sign saying help hungry and pregnant is not work. theres lots of actions flash mobs could work if they stopped trying to be youtube stars and actually caused a slow down of some type. anonymous is doing the right things. if wikileaks wasnt cia they could be seriously causing change and bringing down the house. but yeah the days of molotov cocktails are gone. everything is gonna be electronic. even politicians are now getting busted with new technology. technology is the way to go. and i understand people need an identity and show their colors. but its also the right of the fbi and cia to dress like that too. im all for the big A im just done putting up flags and making a fucking visual religion out of it. peace!
 

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acrata- You sure are quick to criticize, seeing as how you aren't admittedly that educated yourself, maybe look more into what people are saying, not how they said it. When I said "There is no government, no elites at the top controlling the poor" that was in context to everything I was saying about ideal Anarchy, not the empire in which we are living in now. What Who the Hell Knows put over a series of threads were essentially similar to my own thoughts, only more elaborated. I was trying to avoid a lengthy explanation, bc honestly, the more we as humans try to define words, every individual's perspective differs, and can be equally valid. But to have a good discussion with good results all perspectives must be understood and respected.

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a lot of what i've read here sounds a bit like libertarianism... just sayin.
 

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acrata- You sure are quick to criticize, seeing as how you aren't admittedly that educated yourself, maybe look more into what people are saying, not how they said it. When I said "There is no government, no elites at the top controlling the poor" that was in context to everything I was saying about ideal Anarchy, not the empire in which we are living in now. What Who the Hell Knows put over a series of threads were essentially similar to my own thoughts, only more elaborated. I was trying to avoid a lengthy explanation, bc honestly, the more we as humans try to define words, every individual's perspective differs, and can be equally valid. But to have a good discussion with good results all perspectives must be understood and respected.

One thing I can't stand is a know it all hipster.
hey goes with the territory as much as we hate trots and commies anarchists are absolutely awful to each other. peace!
 

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"Goes with the territory" ? I'm not so sure you have a grasp on anarchy if you think we are supposed to be awful to eachother. Seriously do you think about what you write when you type it? And please don't speak for me "hating" any other ideals such as communism, that ignorance is reserved for yourself sir. People can make their own judgement, hopefully without the hate.

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im educated i have 8 years of art. i just hate typing and rules of gramar. my rebellion deal with it. im also blind in one eye and falling apart. i have to be in perfect working order to be a fucking anarchist? libertarians own businesses their employees arent always full stock holders in the company. that means they are exploited. this is in violation of the ideal of libertarian communism/collectivism. when they fix that then the LP can be libertarians like the europeans until then theyre just republiKKKans who smoke dope.
 

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well if you dont know i will tell you THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A COMMUNIST STATE ever! ther have been and are anarchist societies, and they are sucessful every time. until theyre fucked up by fake communist and nazis.
 

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