virginia slim
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and ill probally only stay about 2 or 3 days there myself then head out don't know where im going but im gonna head out haha
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So me and my brother are about to be homeless. its exciting since now we can just do anything, since we have nothing to lose lol. We're looking at Seattle, since Sacramento is a soulless shit hole with no job market. Anyways, just looking to get the runabout of what to do there, areas to live in. We've never really experienced a big city, so anything will be exciting to us. Weed is legal, good music, one of the best job markets, and we're used to the choking polluted heat of the central valley. So rain is a wonderful thing to us. Also the shroom hunting looks good. But yeah, living in an endless flat suburban sprawl all of our lives, with shitty tweakers, average people, nothing but houses, toyota camry's and old people walking tiny rat dogs on every corner, we're looking forward to leaving this suburban hell. Seriously, if you like countless sizzler's and walmarts, miles of tract housing, generic people that look like pedestrians in grand theft auto, and dry fields of cow shit and rice farms, sacramento is heaven.
Tude
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This sounds pretty cool, don't like this statement though The idea is to give members of the working-class neighborhood of Beacon Hill the chance to pick plants scattered throughout the park – dubbed the Beacon Food Forest. Why section off this free thing to just the working class (what so you have to prove it by pulling out a paystub?) Anyway - it is a large and interesting project.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/20...irst-urban-food-forest-will-be-free-to-forage
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Seattle's First Urban Food Forest Will Be Open To Foragers
MARCH 01, 2012 5:35 PM ET
KRISTOFOR HUSTED
Designers of a food forest in Seattle want to make blueberry picking a neighborly activity.
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If you're a regular reader of The Salt, you've probably noticed our interest in foraging. From San Francisco to Maryland, we've met wild food experts, nature guides and chefs passionate about picking foods growing in their backyards.
Now, Washington state has jumped on the foraging bandwagon with plans to develop a 7-acre public plot into a food forest. The kicker? The lot sits smack in the middle of Seattle.
The idea is to give members of the working-class neighborhood of Beacon Hill the chance to pick plants scattered throughout the park – dubbed the Beacon Food Forest. It will feature fruit-bearing perennials — apples, pears, plums, grapes, blueberries, raspberries and more.
Herlihy and a team first assembled their vision of a food forest in 2009 as a final project for a permaculture design class.
If all goes well in the food forest's 2-acre trial plot, the whole 7-acre park will look something like this.
Courtesy of Glenn Herlihy
After some community outreach, local support came pouring in for the idea. Herlihy and the Friends of Beacon Food Forest community group received a $22,000 grant to hire a certified designer for the project.
A local utility, Seattle Public Utilities, offered up the 7-acre plot, which could make it the largest, urban food forest on public land in the U.S., Glenn Herlihy, a steering committee member for the project, tells The Salt.
The group is currently working with $100,000 in seed money to set up the first phase: a 1.75-acre test zone to be planted by the end of the year. After a few years, if that section is deemed successful by the city, the remaining acreage will be converted to food trees.
Of course, any "free" food source begs the question of what to do with overzealous pickers. No definitive answer on how to handle that predicament has been established yet, though. According to Herlihy, the only solutions right now are to produce an abundance of fruit so there's enough for everyone and to embed "thieves' gardens" with extra plants in the park for those people eager to take more than their share.
For now, getting the park on its feet and drawing neighbors to its bushy terrain ranks highest on the totem pole of goals, Herlihy says. He hopes that the park will become a congregating area for the diverse residents of the neighborhood. "There's Vietnamese, Chinese, Filipinos, and Africans in the area. The Beacon Food Forest is a place where all ages and ethnicities can meet."
Eventually, garden plots in the forest will be available to lease to gardeners for $10 a year. Also, Herlihy says they hope to educate community members on the benefits of permaculture.
"It's a food system being developed in a neighborhood that's looking for more self-reliance," he says. "It's getting people together by having a common denominator: soil."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/20...irst-urban-food-forest-will-be-free-to-forage
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Seattle's First Urban Food Forest Will Be Open To Foragers
MARCH 01, 2012 5:35 PM ET
KRISTOFOR HUSTED
Designers of a food forest in Seattle want to make blueberry picking a neighborly activity.
iStockphoto.com
If you're a regular reader of The Salt, you've probably noticed our interest in foraging. From San Francisco to Maryland, we've met wild food experts, nature guides and chefs passionate about picking foods growing in their backyards.
Now, Washington state has jumped on the foraging bandwagon with plans to develop a 7-acre public plot into a food forest. The kicker? The lot sits smack in the middle of Seattle.
The idea is to give members of the working-class neighborhood of Beacon Hill the chance to pick plants scattered throughout the park – dubbed the Beacon Food Forest. It will feature fruit-bearing perennials — apples, pears, plums, grapes, blueberries, raspberries and more.
Herlihy and a team first assembled their vision of a food forest in 2009 as a final project for a permaculture design class.
If all goes well in the food forest's 2-acre trial plot, the whole 7-acre park will look something like this.
Courtesy of Glenn Herlihy
After some community outreach, local support came pouring in for the idea. Herlihy and the Friends of Beacon Food Forest community group received a $22,000 grant to hire a certified designer for the project.
A local utility, Seattle Public Utilities, offered up the 7-acre plot, which could make it the largest, urban food forest on public land in the U.S., Glenn Herlihy, a steering committee member for the project, tells The Salt.
The group is currently working with $100,000 in seed money to set up the first phase: a 1.75-acre test zone to be planted by the end of the year. After a few years, if that section is deemed successful by the city, the remaining acreage will be converted to food trees.
Of course, any "free" food source begs the question of what to do with overzealous pickers. No definitive answer on how to handle that predicament has been established yet, though. According to Herlihy, the only solutions right now are to produce an abundance of fruit so there's enough for everyone and to embed "thieves' gardens" with extra plants in the park for those people eager to take more than their share.
For now, getting the park on its feet and drawing neighbors to its bushy terrain ranks highest on the totem pole of goals, Herlihy says. He hopes that the park will become a congregating area for the diverse residents of the neighborhood. "There's Vietnamese, Chinese, Filipinos, and Africans in the area. The Beacon Food Forest is a place where all ages and ethnicities can meet."
Eventually, garden plots in the forest will be available to lease to gardeners for $10 a year. Also, Herlihy says they hope to educate community members on the benefits of permaculture.
"It's a food system being developed in a neighborhood that's looking for more self-reliance," he says. "It's getting people together by having a common denominator: soil."
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Odin
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There is a doc, "Farm for the Future" I watched some time ago. Was a great intro into permaculture and forest farming.
Seems like a great idea.
And kinda funny if you think about it. Permaculture and forest farming is simply a way of going back to the natural processes found on earths ecosystems to produce abundance.
haha... after all this industrial agro we find we should all just go back to being foragers and cartakers of natures natural bounty. ::cigar::
Seems like a great idea.
And kinda funny if you think about it. Permaculture and forest farming is simply a way of going back to the natural processes found on earths ecosystems to produce abundance.
haha... after all this industrial agro we find we should all just go back to being foragers and cartakers of natures natural bounty. ::cigar::
Tude
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Odin
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@Tude That sounds fascinating. Thread it.
Grafting eh... thats like splicing/mating together different plants by notching and binding them together?. You don't breed a new one but it will grow together right?
I wonder what the limitations of that are (species/plant type wise)
Haha... a bit meh right now but something to research. (reminder here)
40 diff trees though... thats an accomplishment. I wonder how long that graft tree will grow and bear fruit.
Grafting eh... thats like splicing/mating together different plants by notching and binding them together?. You don't breed a new one but it will grow together right?
I wonder what the limitations of that are (species/plant type wise)
Haha... a bit meh right now but something to research. (reminder here)
40 diff trees though... thats an accomplishment. I wonder how long that graft tree will grow and bear fruit.
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as much as I love this idea and want to encourage it...I have doubts whether it will be as successful as they hope. Like the article says, there will be lots of "overzealous pickers".....stupid greedy fucks that will go in there and pick everything they can, and then go sell all the produce at a flea market or some booth at Chinatown. I really hope it succeeds and the idea starts spreading around the country tho
Tude
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@iamwhatiam - yeah I just rented out a 4X12 (no other places to grow anything here in the city) upraised plot in a community garden and have heard rumors in the past of people "harvesting" from other plots and bringing in friends who don't have a plot - go in and harvest ... we shall see -- my first time doing this.
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Overzealous pickers in the working class? Doubtful. There are quite a few blackberry trees behind one of the buildings of my apartment complex. There are blackberrys all over the place most of the summer. I stand there and gorge myself. NOBODY but me and my son pick a dam thing. There are japanese dogwood tress that have excellenct berries in the fall. People look at me like I'm from mars when I pick them. "Working class" would rather go to the supermarket and pick up a neatly wrapped pint. It's "embarrassing" to pick your own unless it's at a kitschy pick-ur-own farm.
Twrex
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Im excited for this one! I want honest opinions on the best stuff to do in the city. Also where should i sleep?
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Tude
Sometimes traveler is traveling.
I always liked San Fran, but as far as sleeping I am seeing this kinda stuff ---- move the homeless out - got super bowl coming (santa clara mind you). I've been rather watching this, including on what they are doing for flying signs etc from people out there now.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...out-of-area-as-super-bowl-city-goes-up-in-sf/
SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) — As Super Bowl City goes up along San Francisco’s Embarcadero, homeless are feeling the unwelcome push from Public Works employees telling them it’s time to move on.
The city has set up a shelter at Pier 80 about four miles away from Super Bowl City. Officials say their push to get homeless people inside is not related to the Super Bowl, but rather the wet weather.
“Well, I think people will say the timing is that El Nino happens during the winter, and the Super Bowl happens during the winter.
Penny Horton slept at a bus stop overnight before three DPW employees and two police officers folded up her tarp and told her and another man it was time to go.
“They’re being polite and friendly as always. They’re saying I have to move,” Penny said.
The DPW insists that this is not related to the Super Bowl events. A spokesperson says those workers are part of a “hot spot” crew that does this work every day.
So far Monday, very few homeless people could be at Justin Hermann Plaza or any of the rest of Super Bowl City, especially now that many of the venues are surrounded by fencing.
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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...out-of-area-as-super-bowl-city-goes-up-in-sf/
SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) — As Super Bowl City goes up along San Francisco’s Embarcadero, homeless are feeling the unwelcome push from Public Works employees telling them it’s time to move on.
The city has set up a shelter at Pier 80 about four miles away from Super Bowl City. Officials say their push to get homeless people inside is not related to the Super Bowl, but rather the wet weather.
“Well, I think people will say the timing is that El Nino happens during the winter, and the Super Bowl happens during the winter.
Penny Horton slept at a bus stop overnight before three DPW employees and two police officers folded up her tarp and told her and another man it was time to go.
“They’re being polite and friendly as always. They’re saying I have to move,” Penny said.
The DPW insists that this is not related to the Super Bowl events. A spokesperson says those workers are part of a “hot spot” crew that does this work every day.
So far Monday, very few homeless people could be at Justin Hermann Plaza or any of the rest of Super Bowl City, especially now that many of the venues are surrounded by fencing.
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i'm not in the bay itself.. up near mount diablo..
don't have a couch, but i'm just a BART away, if you need anything.
no fucking kidding, on that..
on the salusito side of the golden gate are the highlands..
as far as i can *tell*, this *appears* to be a pretty good area to throw yer pack down..
i rubber tramp, & overnighting there in a vehicle is ok if you let the park HQ know (for at least 1 or 2 evenings), so i would suspect a backpacker would be fine, so long as they get under good cover..
the hike with a pack, up the small ass mountain is probably killer, but if yer healthy you can do it in 2 or 3 hours.. incredible shit up there.. thank you, Chloe, & natashavelvet...
hell, man, if you decide to go that route, let me know & i will drive you there my fucking self..
just give me a bit of lead time & be flexible.. this weekend 1/29. i'm heading up the coast a bit..
if you can get to the bart & want to go north on sat morn & come back on sun, i'm doing a day trip with a wwoofer, & yer welcome to come along..
anyways.. hit me up..
peace,
c
don't have a couch, but i'm just a BART away, if you need anything.
no fucking kidding, on that..
on the salusito side of the golden gate are the highlands..
as far as i can *tell*, this *appears* to be a pretty good area to throw yer pack down..
i rubber tramp, & overnighting there in a vehicle is ok if you let the park HQ know (for at least 1 or 2 evenings), so i would suspect a backpacker would be fine, so long as they get under good cover..
the hike with a pack, up the small ass mountain is probably killer, but if yer healthy you can do it in 2 or 3 hours.. incredible shit up there.. thank you, Chloe, & natashavelvet...
hell, man, if you decide to go that route, let me know & i will drive you there my fucking self..
just give me a bit of lead time & be flexible.. this weekend 1/29. i'm heading up the coast a bit..
if you can get to the bart & want to go north on sat morn & come back on sun, i'm doing a day trip with a wwoofer, & yer welcome to come along..
anyways.. hit me up..
peace,
c
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So I'm headed to Seattle soon.
Questions:
Questions:
- Do any of the youth drop-in centers require proof of age?
- Is Discovery Park still a cool place to sleep?
- Can I put up a tent anywhere?
- Where should I spange?
- What's the deal with not being able to sit on the sidewalk? Is that still a thing? And will the cops actually ticket/arrest me for it?
- Can I hop on the Link or the buses without paying, and get away with it?
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