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There is also the question what qualifies as an action, under on common theory, I believe it is suggested that an agents have desires and beliefs and agents have to believe that what they are doing is an end to achieve their desire, for something to qualify as an action. Well something along those lines at least, it's been a while that I studied philosophy of action. Under this model there is an element of pleasure in every action.
In @Waldo case, there was no desire apparently. This seems dubious to me on one hand, on the other hand I can't say that I haven't felt the same in some situations. Maybe the solution is simply that we didn't consciously act, but did things more in a reflex like manner, ultimately.
But as so often with philosophical questions, in the end we probably won't be any more knowledgeable if we analyse this further, at best we have a clearer language about things we intuitively all know already.

Edit: I wrote @Waldo in this post, but meant @warlo. Sry, I am in the middle of one of those sleepless nights at the airport to save the cost for a hostel for one night.
 
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also "I spent 12 years working with dual diagnosed adolescents all over. I've had a hell of a lot of experiences", maybe next time you wanna try and generalize over the whole world you want a bigger and less messed up sample size.

"Nobody goes to God when they are happy." really? most religious freaks cant stop talking about god when good shit happens to them.

Seriously, all you say would be perfectly fine and acceptable so long as you take it inwards and deal with it as a manner of self improvement cause that's what you got in front of you. but you have to stop thinking that because of your personal limited experience says something about a tiny portion of the universe you got it all figured out.
 

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And you may wanna go and prove psycology is a science. that is a great debate. if you are so sure about it why dont you write a paper, submit it and get a nobel prize. seriously, get off your high horse.


Edit: im unsure whether it is or isnt, I have great respect for psycology but Im, like you, nobody to go around saying it for fact
 

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You clearly feel very good about what you did. The pleasure of doing right by your ride or die, of fufilling a sense of honor was worth the pain of enduring sleeplessness, physical and emotional discomfort, etc. If anything, pushing through those difficulties just makes your self satisfaction and pleasurable feelings about your sacrifice and dedication all the stronger.

Then theres the reciprocity angle. Shes always been there for you when you needed her. If you dont push aside your pain and discomfort to help her... she might not be so enthusiastic for helping you in the future. How much do you value the security of knowing this person will likely show up to help you if you really need it? A lot I'd bet, you'd probably do almost anything to avoid loosing that feeling.

Sorry, the actions you took were extremely charitable though completely motivated by selfeshness, but selfeshness isn't a bad or negitive thing.
It just feels like that's a lot to assume of someone else's brain when all we can speak for is ourselves and how our own brains function.
She'd have forgiven me without hesitation and still be there for me 100%. She's that kind of friend. And I've have forgiven myself for not if I really felt like I couldn't do it.
Sounds like you're speaking of the way your own mind functions
 

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Something I want to add that i didn't see anyone blatantly say yet is that if you ask directly "when should I head out?" there's no room for miscommunication. If they're given the opportunity to draw a line and don't (maybe they're trying to be "polite") then that's on them and not ur fault.
And when someone houses me up, I ask before I use anything that hasn't specifically offered. Again, no room for miscommunication or someone feeling disrespected.
to me this is the biggest point stated

why should it be so tough on us as people to embrace direct communication?

also @warlo you are platinum grade badass dude *salute
 
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to me this is the biggest point stated

why should it be so tough on us as people to embrace direct communication?

also @warlo you are platinum grade badass dude *salute
Yep. Whenever staying at someone's place. Establish expectations. have a house meeting. that way there's no surprises later on.
 

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