There is no such thing as Clean/Green Energy (1 Viewer)

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Solar and wind require oil to be produced and replaced, so it is still poisoning the environment with the unnecessary oil based production process, which includes overseas shipping and lack of biodegradability.

Wind turbines chop up birds. Solar panels fry birds and animals and trick animals into thinking that there is water because of the reflective blue surface.

Nuclear plants produce nuclear waste, litter the environment with concrete and metals, and it may be even more resource limited than oil.

So don't worry about using "clean" energy or not, it's a trap.
 
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In the long run solar and wind are producing clean, virtually unlimited energy, and are eventually going to be able to harvest more joules than coal or oil ever could as technology progresses.

We certainly should be concerned with where our energy comes from. Oil and coal resources are diminishing at an exponential rate, while co2 emissions are increasing simultaneously as the population increases.

But what do I know, I'm just getting my info from the thousands of scientists who publish peer reviewed articles saying we need to adapt or suffer the numerous consequences.
 
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Solar and wind are not producing clean energy. Like I said, they require oil to be made, kill animals, and litter the environment. They also don't produce "unlimited energy."
 

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Solar and wind are not producing clean energy. Like I said, they require oil to be made, kill animals, and litter the environment. They also don't produce "unlimited energy."
"Virtually unlimited" key word virtually. As long as the sun shines and the wind blows that will be an energy resource. Sure you need oil to produce turbines, but the whole reason it exists is so we don't have to rely on fossil fuels as heavily which are far less Eco friendly.

You seem to be bent on solar and wind being harmful to animals, despite the fact it's a FAR better alternative than gas or oil for producing energy while also decreasing co2 emissions which are melting polar ice caps and destroying entire ecosystems that exist there.

The impact on the environment is so much less with wind and solar. I'm not sure if you're argument is it doesn't matter what method of energy production we use, or stop producing energy all together. Either way it's dumb and I'm starting to think you're just trolling
 
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I don't see how the impact is less when it demands more oil, and has extra harmful effects.

I'm a troll? Never insulted anyone and I've been called a wingnut and a troll for my dissent.
 

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Small scale hydro is clean as can be, so long as the water wheel doesnt kill anything that goes through.

Large scale hydro power kills some fishes for sure
 

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Never said that I was against using oil. Totally irrelevant comment to the point.
are you sure? because oil is kinda ya know...not a renewable energy source and thats what yer original post was about, whether or not "clean" energy was a trap. mind if i ask why you joined stp?

My model A ford took oil to produce and has been driven regularly for 90 years, its more about use per ton of oil input imo...
i was being sarcastic.
 

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are you sure? because oil is kinda ya know...not a renewable energy source and thats what yer original post was about, whether or not "clean" energy was a trap. mind if i ask why you joined stp?



i was being sarcastic.
I was more pointing toward op that using stuff that had its carbon emitted in the distant past is far better than using new energy like buying a new car for instance instead of driving an old one etc.
 
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I don't see how the impact is less when it demands more oil, and has extra harmful effects.

I'm a troll? Never insulted anyone and I've been called a wingnut and a troll for my dissent.
The fact that we have solar and wind energy right now decreases our dependency on oil. The demand for oil goes down because of the alternative energy source, after the turbine or solar panel is produced. Therefore being a much cleaner alternative to fossil fuels because it consumes far less in the long run.
 

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I was more pointing toward op that using stuff that had its carbon emitted in the distant pass far better than using new energy like buying a new car for instance instead of driving an old one etc.
at this point i think wingnut has been established but if you wanna keep going thats fine by me.
 
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I don't see how my original post was about that. There is no such thing as "renewable" energy outside of nature.
 

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I don't see how my original post was about that. There is no such thing as "renewable" energy outside of nature.
ok so unwilling to understand modern common sense wingnut. i just like to know what kinda folk im possibly going to have to interact with later on. welcome to stp.
 

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