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Just a heads up for all you travelers out there. There are riots going on in the Twin Cities at the time of this posting over a black man killed by Minneapolis Police last Monday during his arrest.

Streets are blocked off. Neighborhoods are on fire. A murder. Entire city blocks destroyed and looted. Transit has been suspended for at least the rest of the upcoming weekend. The National Guard has been mobilized. Protesters shutting down the freeways.

It's bad! I heard on the news they are moving all the homeless camps near Hiawatha for their safety.

 
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It's in every major city that cares at this point. At least 14 cities I can see are actively protesting. But Minneapolis is on fire for sure. But fuck. This is it. I said once the roots start they'll get worse and worse. Everytime the police do something ANYWHERE. I think it's the complete opposite though, we all need to go towards the conflict. This could rewrite history and politics forever. Topple the rich man.
 

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The protests in other cities must be peaceful. I just heard Denver and New York got some violent protests, and in New York they're shooting them and arresting them.

So far no action here. Two Minneapolis police precincts burned to the ground last night. The fire departments are overwhelmed, and I heard over the Scanner that they are just going to let things burn to the ground!

The police are doing nothing, and the National Guard is just standing around in one little area and talking among themselves.

The protesters and cops are all wearing masks though so they don't spread any diseases!
 

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At least they're wearing masks an shit. I been watching on the multiple screens I use at news time. Arrested a cnn reporter live on air. Dude got shot straight in the eye with a rubber bullet. And the fires bro. Everywhere. Atlanta supposed to start 4pm today but shiit
 
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The protests in other cities must be peaceful

Peaceful protests have and continue to be largely ignored by not only the media, but also the general public. People have been peacefully protesting for a long time now. Writing letters and holding up signs only does so much.
 

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Peaceful protests have and continue to be largely ignored by not only the media, but also the general public. People have been peacefully protesting for a long time now. Writing letters and holding up signs only does so much.

So burning down a whole community including those not involved with the thing your pissed off about is the answer?

Focus is lacking... ?
 
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So burning down a whole community including those not involved with the thing your pissed off about is the answer?

Focus is lacking... ?

Not anywhere in what I said did I even come remotely close to saying anything even close to "burn down the entire community and especially make sure to torch shit that has nothing to do with anything" fucks sake dude seriously is that what you got from that?
 

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Not anywhere in what I said did I even come remotely close to saying anything even close to "burn down the entire community and especially make sure to torch shit that has nothing to do with anything" fucks sake dude seriously is that what you got from that?

I took it as sarcasm, meaning you don't set fires in your community to demand "justice."
 

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I thought I'd post a little update on what has happened since yesterday.....

Some of these things were on the news, but a lot of them I heard over my police scanner:

1. Cars were being driving down the freeways AGAINST traffic at high speed, so they were speeding Northbound in the Southbound lanes of the freeway.
2. Protesters shut down the Interstate, then hi-jacked a UPS delivery truck, and started throwing packages out of the back onto the freeway, then igniting them on fire.
3. Gun fire was exchanged between law enforcement and snipers.
4. A United States Post Office was broken into and set ablaze.
5. An unsuccessful attempt was made to break into a Wells Fargo Cash Machine.
6. With the cops busy in other parts of St. Paul, gang violence has broken out on the East Side resulting in several murders with no suspects.
7. Debris is being thrown off overpasses all over the Metro Area at oncoming cars.
8. Most retail stores have been shut down all across the Twin Cities.
9. Someone attempted to sneak into the MSP International Airport and blow up fuel storage containers.
10. Protesting has broken out in other parts of Minnesota, resulting in more curfews being enacted (mostly ignored), ie., St. Cloud, Forest Lake, Braham.

Of course most are wearing their face masks making it hard to ID them on video.
 
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I thought I'd post a little update on what has happened since yesterday.....

Some of these things were on the news, but a lot of them I heard over my police scanner:

1. Cars were being driving down the freeways AGAINST traffic at high speed, so they were speeding Northbound in the Southbound lanes of the freeway.
2. Protesters shut down the Interstate, then hi-jacked a UPS delivery truck, and started throwing packages out of the back onto the freeway, then igniting them on fire.
3. Gun fire was exchanged between law enforcement and snipers.
4. A United States Post Office was broken into and set ablaze.
5. An unsuccessful attempt was made to break into a Wells Fargo Cash Machine.
6. With the cops busy in other parts of St. Paul, gang violence has broken out on the East Side resulting in several murders with no suspects.
7. Debris is being thrown off overpasses all over the Metro Area at oncoming cars.
8. Most retail stores have been shut down all across the Twin Cities.
9. Someone attempted to sneak into the MSP International Airport and blow up fuel storage containers.
10. Protesting has broken out in other parts of Minnesota, resulting in more curfews being enacted (mostly ignored), ie., St. Cloud, Forest Lake, Braham.

Of course most are wearing their face masks making it hard to ID them on video.

To be clear, I'm not necessarily saying "fuck yea all of this sounds super positive and I agree 100% with every action citizens are doing to get some fucking justice" but you do understand why this is happening right? Cops straight up murdered another black dude, and more evidence is coming out every time I check back in that police are in fact responsible for at least some of the property damage (unless I'm mistaken that auto zone dude was positively id'd as a cop). So its fucking cops trying to make it look worse than it actually is so they can justify using tear gas and shooting people. This isnt a new tactic. It's pretty by the book behavior and big surprise, it works pretty good to shift peoples focus from what this is about in the first place. Stop letting cops fucking murder black people and get away with it.

The solution is pretty simple here and it could be argued pretty damn well that yer city chose to do dick all about it until it was too late by attempting to protect murdering cops, business as usual these days. Its sickening. Arrest and charge the murderers so at least a little but of justice can be served.
 

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Sad stuff.
This is why I dont read the news.
Its just makes me depressed.

Anyhow, just quickly educated myself a bit on the situation.
What stands out most to me is that the white officer charged had FUCKING 18 prior complaints filed against him! MPD didnt release details but common sense would dictate most complaints would be related to excessive force.
 
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Sad stuff.
This is why I dont read the news.
Its just makes me depressed.

Anyhow, just quickly educated myself a bit on the situation.
What stands out most to me is that the white officer charged had FUCKING 18 prior complaints filed against him! MPD didnt release details but common sense would dictate most complaints would be related to excessive force.

The 18 complaints ain't even all of it unfortunately. The other cops with him also have records of excessive force and one of em (iirc it wasnt Mr knees but I could be wrong) shot and killed a unarmed black dude not to long ago. It's not like this is a "oopsie cakes my bad yall first time phew I'll straighten up from now on" thing. Its cops getting away with murder.
 
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Peaceful protests have and continue to be largely ignored by not only the media, but also the general public. People have been peacefully protesting for a long time now. Writing letters and holding up signs only does so much.
Thing is, violent protests are convenient to the cops because then they can justify using force. And normal citizens aren't ever going to outpower people armed with government funding. And didn't the Hong Kong protests have pretty wide spread coverage?
 
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Thing is, violent protests are convenient to the cops because then they can justify using force.

This just isnt true. Cops will justify using force no matter what. For instance having a cop kill a dude for what was it a bad check? That guy wasnt being violent in any way. At all. And he was murdered.

And normal citizens aren't ever going to outpower people armed with government funding.

I think you might be missing the point.

And didn't the Hong Kong protests have pretty wide spread coverage?

Considering it's been going on what like a whole year now, yea I suppose it has gotten alot of coverage but the protests in hong hong are far from what I would call peaceful. Cops are murdering people there left and right too.
 
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For instance having a cop kill a dude for what was it a bad check? That guy wasnt being violent in any way. At all. And he was murdered.
But did anyone try to justify that?

Cops are murdering people there left and right too.
I'm talking about the protestors, everyone knows chinese authorities are next level pigs
 

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To be clear, I'm not necessarily saying "fuck yea all of this sounds super positive and I agree 100% with every action citizens are doing to get some fucking justice" but you do understand why this is happening right? Cops straight up murdered another black dude, and more evidence is coming out every time I check back in that police are in fact responsible for at least some of the property damage (unless I'm mistaken that auto zone dude was positively id'd as a cop). So its fucking cops trying to make it look worse than it actually is so they can justify using tear gas and shooting people. This isnt a new tactic. It's pretty by the book behavior and big surprise, it works pretty good to shift peoples focus from what this is about in the first place. Stop letting cops fucking murder black people and get away with it.

The solution is pretty simple here and it could be argued pretty damn well that yer city chose to do dick all about it until it was too late by attempting to protect murdering cops, business as usual these days. Its sickening. Arrest and charge the murderers so at least a little but of justice can be served.

You're going to have to explain your thinking to me on this one. Okay so a cop kills a man. Now the community rises up and doesn't attack the cops; NO, they trash honest citizens lively hoods and shut down shipping, commerce, and commuting (freeways), burn down the Post Office and rob delivery trucks in order to get "justice"?

Seems to me the best way to get "justice" is to go after the correct entity. In this case the Minneapolis Police and/or City Hall.
 
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But did anyone try to justify that?

Um. Yes. A entire system that tries to push this shit under the rug has been doing that for decades.

You're going to have to explain your thinking to me on this one. Okay so a cop kills a man. Now the community rises up and doesn't attack the cops; NO, they trash honest citizens lively hoods and shut down shipping, commerce, and commuting (freeways), burn down the Post Office and rob delivery trucks in order to get "justice"?

Seems to me the best way to get "justice" is to go after the correct entity. In this case the Minneapolis Police and/or City Hall.

They did attack the cops. Yer in mpls and arnt aware of this? You do realize that the people targeting at least one business have been identified as police officers acting as protesters to attempt to shift the publics view of this right? This is standard police action to disruptt protests to shift the focus from "hey cops are killing innocent people dont do that anymore" to "shoot the looters they all just want free TVs see! They dont care about anything but destroying their own community these people are monsters! We had to shoot them to save YOU".

Of course theres also some people acting like assholes and just trashing shit for shits and giggles. I'm not arguing that, but I can tell you first hand what I saw last night here in Richmond is not what I'm reading about in the news this afternoon.
 

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