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Am I the only one that thinks this is a joke? I mean a bunch of rich kids out being rebellious thinking that the government is out to get them and their politically correctness and consent b/s. That's just me though whats your peoples opinions?
 

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i dont know about it enough to agree with you. sounds like a bunch of shit though.
 

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crimethinc is a pseudo anarchist group. they only talk about the cool parts of being homeless and dirty, because they have the money and "education" to fall back on if shit fucks up.
 

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crimethinc is a pseudo anarchist group. they only talk about the cool parts of being homeless and dirty, because they have the money and "education" to fall back on if shit fucks up.

Yeah I totally got that vibe. I went to half of one of their conventions, and the whole consent shit was ridiculous.."Do I have consent to sit next to you" what the hell is that and you can just tell its a bunch of rich snobs who honestly think that the government has nothing else better to do than send informants to catch them. LAME!!:mad:
 

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oh....well thats fucking lame.

big time, I wasted time effort and missed a pretty good show to go to that crap never again the activist scene is totally done for. ill just stick to hoppin trains from now on.
 

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ive never been into orginized anarchy/activism or anything of the sort. its wasted effort and especially in the anarchist scene they sometimes become what they say they fight against. anarchy is chaos, so how can they orginize a group to fight for chaos? is it not the same as govornment or school systems? joining together for a similar cause? its all BS and word vomit in the end.
 

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the activist scene ain't lame, crimethinc is. they aren't an activist group. just a group pretending to be. yea, hopping trains is all we really need. just gimme an open gondola headed everywhere and i'm happy
 

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never said it was lame. just said i dont personally like it. i hear " well i spent five years trying to save this species of animal but we only ended up saving one, wich later got sick and died..." too much. good intentions i believe in, but personally im not going to waste five years crying over a tree that will eventually get torn down anyway. or whatever it may be.
 

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anarchy is chaos, so how can they orginize a group to fight for chaos? is it not the same as govornment or school systems? joining together for a similar cause? its all BS and word vomit in the end.[/QUOTE]

Well its not necessarily chaos its the absence of government, but just because theres an absence of government doesnt mean that there would be chaos but people like to think that way. the symbol of anarchy is the a going out of the circle. the circle representing the government, and the a going outside meaning that we wont be controlled by or stay in the walls the government creates. Ive been involved in activism since I was about 15 but going to that convention just made me lose all hope and Im just doing my own thing now.
 

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anarchy isn't chaos. its just the lack of a centralised government. basically tribes in a sense...


but if you think about the way you put it, it is, in the end it's own govornment by demanding a certain way of living (tribes) or whatever it may be. in the end the human race craves orginised leading. just as anarchists dont want a central govornment it seems the majority does, and by forcing the thoughts of the minority on the majority it eventually causes chaos.... wich leads me to calling anarchy chaos because (believe it or not) anarchists are the minority and if you really think about it it would be just as fucked up to force the idiots who live in a centralised gov to live as anarchists do as it is for anarchists to live as they are. in the end no one wins in politics.
 

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but if you think about the way you put it, it is, in the end it's own govornment by demanding a certain way of living (tribes) or whatever it may be. in the end the human race craves orginised leading. just as anarchists dont want a central govornment it seems the majority does, and by forcing the thoughts of the minority on the majority it eventually causes chaos.... wich leads me to calling anarchy chaos because (believe it or not) anarchists are the minority and if you really think about it it would be just as fucked up to force the idiots who live in a centralised gov to live as anarchists do as it is for anarchists to live as they are. in the end no one wins in politics.

man i hate that majority rules bs.
 

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Well put, and I dont doubt for one second that we are the minority and its not really forced to the majority, its just aggressively shown, and in that case I presume that it would cause chaos, but it would get a point across. So many people complain about taxes, complain about politicians and how corrupt they are, yet they agree with it and go vote for those very politicians that they will be complaining about when a year goes by.
 

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Well its not necessarily chaos its the absence of government, but just because theres an absence of government doesnt mean that there would be chaos but people like to think that way. the symbol of anarchy is the a going out of the circle. the circle representing the government, and the a going outside meaning that we wont be controlled by or stay in the walls the government creates. Ive been involved in activism since I was about 15 but going to that convention just made me lose all hope and Im just doing my own thing now.[/QUOTE]

ah, but remember, we are talking about the masses, not just you and i. if people found out they had no law, there would be chaos because of the simple fact human beings are naturally destructive and like to see the far reaches of their limits. there would be a wave of a week or so where no one broke many laws(because we are all brainwashed to naturally not do certain things), then chaos, then eventually the dumb and destructive would kill themselves or eachother or the people would take matters into their own hands...eventually creating their own smaller versions of govornment/communities then a while down the line creating a larger central govornment again....its human nature. to be dumb.
 

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Well put, and I dont doubt for one second that we are the minority and its not really forced to the majority, its just aggressively shown, and in that case I presume that it would cause chaos, but it would get a point across. So many people complain about taxes, complain about politicians and how corrupt they are, yet they agree with it and go vote for those very politicians that they will be complaining about when a year goes by.


if its not one thing, its another. if its not taxes, its their marraige, if its not govornment its their job, if its not life its their dreams. people live to judge. theres realy no way to please us all.
 

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if its not one thing, its another. if its not taxes, its their marraige, if its not govornment its their job, if its not life its their dreams. people live to judge. theres realy no way to please us all.

Eh, I just stick to hoppin trains now it seems to tickle my fancy pretty well these days. maybe they should try that.
 

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lol sorry to get so serious on you guys. i love talking politics and anarchy. or i just love arguing on good subjects. :)
 

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