On Travelling with Books

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I am a big fan of books. I like alt history, and other various types of books, including anti-civ critique, survival guides/books (like making shelter, trapping/foraging, etc.), and plenty of other more niche categories (like WWII). I would prefer to take my entire collection with me (about 12 u-haul book boxes worth, or roughly 330 books), but I know this is a pipe dream. We (my family and I) just got a new place, and I think I will keep my room to come back to for downtime (offroad). So, I guess my question is this:

How many books should I take with me, what types would be best, and do any of you take books with you, and if so; how many, and what do they weigh? My "collection" is estimated between 250 and 400 pounds (LibraryThing can be a pain sometimes for exact numbers). Any cool bookcases you take with you (for my bike camper/rubber tramping buddies)?
 
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are these books not available as ebooks? seems like that would save you a lot of trouble.
 

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i mean... priorities, i guess. if you can get the same books in ebook format, put them on an ebook reader and join the 21st century or... just don't complain about the weight.

i guess im just not seeing the point of this thread. you're not going to find anyone on the road with more than a handful of books on them. if you're dead set on traveling with 400 lbs of books, that sounds pretty unreasonable. but hey, don't let me tell you what to do, i mean... you can lead horse to water...
 
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I just caught this - Bob Dole from Washington DC hahahaha it would be cool if you were the real republican senator from Kansas. It's funny that he's a bibliophile who wants to live in a van.
Sadly no. I dont remember where I first heard this name, but I have been using it for several years now as an alias. Now that you mention it, it would be pretty cool if that was the case! I picked DC because I figure thats a fairly neutral spot (what can I say, I [somewhat] value my privacy)

Edit: I looked him up, and it is bringing back memories of my childhood; sitting in front of Fox News, and hearing the name. I think I found out where I picked the name up from
 
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It seems like you are more interested in bragging about your library than figuring out how to have words to read on your travels?

I love books, everything about them. But if you want a voluminous collection suck it up and take Matt's advice. Or be stubborn and carry 20lbs of books? Attachments come with a price, dont they?

I had a kindle for a while, extremely cheap and the way it was back lit lent to feeling like reading from a page, no glare, etc. I liked it. But lost it or broke it or gave it away.

Now I'll usually take 2 or 3 books. 1 new, one tried and true that I know and love and can turn to any page and start reading, and usually a small 100 pager on philosophy or science. Take 2 or 3 that slide into the front pocket of your pack.

Also, consider you can always trade or find a used book store. Sometimes people have those cute lil free library "bird house" things outside their houses. Point being, books are everywhere.
 

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Recently, family bridges have become a bit rocky, so to speak. I now fear for the worst. I have been planning on building a bike camper for some time now, but due to an increase in high winds (thanks, deforestation), it seems this might not be the greatest idea in the world. I like the idea and look of a lot of homeless push carts, and the fact I can fit a bunch of books into it really appeals to me; whereas fitting a ton of books into a bike camper will wreck havoc on my legs. The only problem, of course, being the weight of the books themselves. I am planning on making this a pushcart that can be hauled via a truck or car if worst comes to worse (like, needing to get out of dodge, stat!), and am not too concerned about making it a bit larger than most other's examples (like Elkins's homeless pushcart). With that in mind though, I still need it to not be super tall, so I can see over it to push it (I am 6 foot 4 inches).

As a side note, I have thought for most of my life about living in a van or trailer, but I have moral issues with owning a vehicle of any sort (those with a combustion engine), as well as ethical issues. Aside from that, it would force me to maintain a job of some sort, in order to pay my insurance (looking at the cheapest being around 700 USD per month for insurance).

It seems like you are more interested in bragging about your library than figuring out how to have words to read on your travels?

I love books, everything about them. But if you want a voluminous collection suck it up and take Matt's advice. Or be stubborn and carry 20lbs of books? Attachments come with a price, dont they?

I had a kindle for a while, extremely cheap and the way it was back lit lent to feeling like reading from a page, no glare, etc. I liked it. But lost it or broke it or gave it away.

Now I'll usually take 2 or 3 books. 1 new, one tried and true that I know and love and can turn to any page and start reading, and usually a small 100 pager on philosophy or science. Take 2 or 3 that slide into the front pocket of your pack.

Also, consider you can always trade or find a used book store. Sometimes people have those cute lil free library "bird house" things outside their houses. Point being, books are everywhere.

Well, no. My point was never to brag, but instead to attempt to show you what I am up against. My intention is to have NO electronics whatsoever. The problem with those free library stands, is that they never carry books im interested in (I have very specific tastes). Not even public libraries carry what I read. I have checked into those "bookbikes", and like the design, but dont think it would be all that great for my use. Might one day try building one (assuming my family situation gets better). Being in a hotel for almost a month now is really getting to me mentally.
 
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Aside from that, it would force me to maintain a job of some sort, in order to pay my insurance (looking at the cheapest being around 700 USD per month for insurance).

Okay, first off, I need to address this. If you're being quoted 700 dollars a MONTH for auto insurance you either didn't fill out the forms right or you hit about 20 nuns crossing the street on your last grocery run. I know people with multiple DUIs that have cheaper insurance than that. something is wrong there.

Second, it seems like you're not really interested in any of the suggestions we've provided. Sucks for you I guess. Judging from the scant details you've given us, you're about to be in a situation where you're going to have to start making some serious sacrifices, and frankly, you sound extremely unwilling to do that.

so i don't think there's anything we can do for you. this lifestyle involves serious sacrifices in one form or another. if you're not willing to give some things up, you're not going to get very far.

i do have one last suggestion. go find a place in the woods, build up a camp/hut/house and store your books there and just live in the woods. or you could try living in a storage unit. but im sure you'll hate those suggestions too.
 

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A couple books is plenty. Read one..give it to someone who wants to read it and get a new book.maybe trade for a book they have. Personally i have never had the attachment to books that i have to lets say a musical recording. How to/informational books being the exception. I really cant think of a fiction book i have read more than once. So yeah..for me.. a couple in the pack is plenty.
If youre seriously considering building a bike trailer to haul a library around perhaps you should take a few moments to reflect on the numerous reasons this is a terrible/fairly ridoculous idea vs the nonexistent good side of this plan 😅
Maybe its just internet rambling. Maybe youve never even read a book. I will GIVE YOU an ereader just to help cure this madness haha
 

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i was just thinkin when i saw this one book i'm using, that I traded for it in a bookstore. great bartering opportunity.

if it's owned by the person who is working the desk, and not like 'barnes and noble' or whatever, you can totally do the same. just occurred to me to share, it is kinda a nice memory.

i think a lot of people are like retired or trustfund people who own bookstores, not to generalize, but sometimes they aren't hardliners when it comes to the $$$.
 

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I would think just keep 1 or 2 non fiction books to reference if they are things you use a lot (like field guides for foraging books), and 1 fiction book. Don't know about you, but I'm generally only reading one book at a time. Maybe read one and drop it off at a free library to help with the shitty selection? I barely ever read a book more than once anyway.
Or maybe just sell all your books and then you'll have some funds to buy new ones on the road? Halling around a library on a bike trailer sounds like a lot of work. I'd go farenheit 451 on em the second day
 
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I'd love to fill a light trailer with books and haul them with me, but it seems impractical.

I think I might bring my rarest books with me. Theyre niche enough people would probably cringe at the thought of stealing them, and I doubt books are going to be huge on their priority list were someone to have such an intention.
 

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My perspectives on this have changed quite a good deal since my initial post/s, and im sorry if I seemed like a jackass to anyone, I wasn't attempting to be, and likely didnt realize that's how it came off as, so I apologize.

In quite the shift of opinions since that post (reading my old posts honestly seems like such a trip as my views on things have changed so radically that they make me question my state of mind when I wrote them and honestly sound like another person versus who I am today), I have sold all but roughly 200~ print books from my prior storage unit library (at it's peak was 11,201 books exactly).

I moved towards an e-reader for what is essentially exactly the same sentiments shared in this thread. I actually scanned all the books of mine that didn't have any already digital copies, and this has helped my peace of mind tremendously. I have been in the process of offloading books on eBay, and while I wish they would sell faster, it has become a hobby of mine that makes me smile and fills me with a sense of purpose (to provide people with books they are looking for)! Several handicaps have rendered me home-bound for the most part, but my e-reader helps me greatly as I no longer feel that overwhelming sense of urgency.

Truth be told, the current administration (going to do my best to not drag politics into this thread) makes me leery about owning print books, since many of my books (or at least ones I once owned in print) are environmental/anti-authoritarian (make of that what you will), and I feel like having print copies might condemn me if the gestapo comes around. I know this is a bit out of pocket as far as reasons are concerned, but book burning is a very real thing and I fear it will ramp up in the coming years, and I would rather just be safe than sorry.

I still really like the idea of a bike trailer, but not for a library anymore. On top of that, I have felt the seas calling to me as an alternative lifestyle, and as im sure most who live that way can attest to, paper + water tends to not be the best combination. Granted, electronics too, though it is far easier to keep safe a small amount of items versus a large collection.

Bryan, I chose this name cuz I thought it would be funny, pretty much for the reasons you think it is. Once I found out Bob Dole (who I had heard the name of before but couldn't remember where until after I made the account) was a politician, I decided to capitalize on that fact by setting my location as DC. I am glad you caught that, makes it well worth the chuckle.

rough draft, that is something I have thought of as well, and with both that and the free little libraries, I feel like I will be more than golden. Who knows, maybe I will pick up the hobby of scanning unknown local history books from places I pass through (should be condition resolve itself).

Rune, many of my books are/were niche and esoteric as well, it's something I enjoyed about my print library. Granted, I now have 600GB of the "wizard" archive, which is a billion worlds more in-depth than I ever had in print. Still, many of the reasons I clung to my print books so hard was because even though many told me that "oh well the library would have that if you wanted to read it", oftentimes they didn't and wouldn't. That's such a huge reason I clung to them, but after scanning the ones without digital copies available, I feel much better about my future, both as a reader, and a traveler.

Side note, but does anyone else have a hard time leaving anything with friends or family, even if they offer to house the stuff for you? My family has repeatedly offered to store my books for me while I am traveling/on the road, but I just don't feel like that's the right thing to do, or even something I would want. Almost like a "all or nothing" situation. Just me?

Thnx for reading my ramble, and I hope I cleared some things up, especially seeing as how my initial post is nearing 5 years old come September. How we change in that time...
 
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