An Investment For 3 Years Of Planning

[Venatus]

That being said we are a adverse possesion ecovillage project. you sound more like your trying to start something like shut up and grow it (now called the garden) in tennessee

cool ill check that out

 

[Venatus]

yes and yes again to all of it.
the most important thing even on this sight is ownership/partnership.
It all depends on how you set up your Utopian idea from the get, are the people invited as guest or partners.
I suggest you start researching the serfs and lords of yesteryear, share cropping and why most of that failed into the semi autocracies you see across the world today.
you will need to let people become owners in your utopia for it to work, they will need a voice, they will need to know that what they put in will be acknowledged and rewarded.
if people can not be partners you will not succeed.
I assure you if you post you have 50 acres and freshwater and are starting a community somewhere and there is a partnership/ownership being offered you will have to beat them off with a stick however the moment you start with rules no drugs, no alcohol all we do is work and work and work more you will lose everyone and everything and be sitting on the mountain/hillside/plat of land doing nothing more than watching the grass turn at every season.
Your position in life should never be to exhault yourself above or around others. If you make it an equal partnership and open to a limited amount of bullshit and place some fair and open minded ground rules you will succeed, if you don't share and and expect everyone to do the work for you; then start your cult now and offer as much booze and drugs as possible and then you can rule your squabble with minimal resistance.
otherwise start with your charter and invite open minded people to join, be prepared for the lunes and freethinkers who will be smarter than you and tell you when and where your going wrong.
There are more thinkers than doer's in this world i assure you of that.
good luck, one more note search every commune and community that started and research why they failed that is where you need to start.
Head the words of the previous poster freshwater, you need a never ending supply of freshwater. water is more important than anything else in regard to land purchase. start you search there.
if you do not know water rights and usage your a fool and soon shall part with your money.
Next look for land that you can purchase with no restrictions and right of way access.
do not fool yourself into thinking things work out; the law of the land can and will destroy any free thoughts or ideas you think you have.
guns, drug, booze mean nothing; money and land separates the men from the boys.

for example Utah no water is drill with out permit by the state,
water rights are purchased before a well can be drilled, with limits on the amount of water that can be consumed. 500 to 800 feet well depth at 30 to 40 dollars a foot.

Colorado owns the water that falls from the sky, you are not allowed to collect rain water from your roof with out a permit.
wells and drilling same cost.

New mexico 600 to 900 feet for water do you know the power and well head size to draw water.
Arizona is the same.

if you think you are going to buy land and dam up a stream and create a pond your neighbor will or can potential sue and or kill you. TN, TX, LA, WV, VA

I hope you put thought and are truly a heeled as you state in your posting.

Good luck and maybe i might stop by for a glass of water.

p.s.
Drill an illegal well, dig a hole until you hit water and or an aquafier and get caught in all but one state in the union it is a felony that's Texas.
The punishment is not just prison but forfeiture of land and title.

thanks for the heads up.

 

[Venatus]

You know the biggest part of "community" is the people. So you can have it growing long before you need to buy, build, or create anything else. I don't think those kind of things are like the field of dreams, where if you build it they will just come.

Id say you should have a strong community in place before even considering what your trying to do...

i agree with that. i never liked the whole if you build it they will come routine.

 

[Venatus]

The community already exists.

It is you, I and many others here and all over the world just waiting for a reason to connect.

I don't think a person would need to actually finish anything before somebody actually shows.

btw: If I put something together and had an ongoing invite from the beginning which nobody responded to, my finishing touches would probably include an anti-oogle fence

yeah im not a fan of the ongoing invite idea. ive recently taken note to how extreme my ideas really are to some people out there.