Question what do yall think of my current gear list? (click for list)

[theswirlyswoosh]

hey yall, i posted this in this section because it covers like... every section, and I thought posting each individual thing in its own section would annoy people with spam posts. if this should go somewhere else ill gladly move the post.

anyway, im in the process of getting a list of gear, and figuring out general cost. stole almost all of it from the StP gear list / guide, but lmk if theres anything i should change. I made a giant cart on amazon and everything should be 500-600 bucks, but thats with shitty amazon gear, so i'l narrow stuff down to higher quality items later.

stuff that i already have:

• most clothing
• most hygiene
• most tech

stuff that i need:

• tools
• camp
• food
• papers
• entertainment

 

[ali]

Looks good to me, if a little heavy.

Some people bring a favorite or meaningful book, but I would recommend just ditching it and reading on your phone instead. Ditto Gameboy, you can play those same games in an emulator on your phone. Flashlight and maps? Also on your phone. Knife, saw and Leatherman duplicate each other too, imo, but some people love those multitools. Bear in mind you're not gonna be able to take that kind of stuff on a plane unless it's checked baggage so don't waste too much money on it if you plan to fly anywhere.

If you want a personal recommendation on hygiene, depending where you plan to go, sun block is going to be more valuable than chap stick, unless you completely cover up from neck to ankle like a Bedouin. On similar note, anywhere hot, flip-flops or sandals could be a lifesaver. Upside, you can lose the thermals if you're sticking to warmer climates, and your sleep system will be lighter too. Replacing your hoodie with a puffy jacket which can be rolled up very tiny or a merino wool longsleeve that is light and dries fast might make you look like a yuppie hiker douchebag, but your body will thank you for not lugging heavy cotton shit all over the world. Ditto jeans, work pants with some polyester or nylon will dry faster and weigh less.

 

[81285]

I also recommend merino wool, I have two long sleeve shirts, two pairs of underwear, pair of socks, 2 hats (one light, one warm), bandana, all wool
I have these military anti rip nylon pants with zippable shorts to long pants conversion, I use them for rugged terrain and for working
for every day wear I have zippable shorts to long pants conversion hiking pants, I think its just a random semi-rugged material (50% breathable, 50% strength)

Jacket you can make a ruana from a piece of wool and have a thin rain jacket or poncho to cover it, but thats just my wool bias coming through 😂
I have a thin jacket and a wool vest underneath, which is similar

my clothes are basically 1 pair for wear, 1 pair for wash/backup
I sleep in my clean shirt for next day and wash my old one (or if I have both dirty I have my trusty wool blanket)
I wear sandals almost 24/7, I have a pair of waterproof work boots and a pair of wool socks for work and rugged terrain

what about your water container(s)? thats the most important thing imo

also I wouldnt skimp on backpack, tent, pad and sleeping bag, the rest just get the cheapest thing possible and replace it later (other than wool clothes, its worth the money) get the most important out of the way first, finish with the rest
I started with backpack, mat, tent, wool shirt, jacket, shit kit, two water containers (one for each side of backpack), a knife and a multitool
Also a waterproof bag for tech stuff is nice, I also have a waterproof case for my phone (can still use the screen)

Im getting a body strap pocket/storage thing next, to keep my essentials in there. If you lose your entire pack, having your most important stuff on your body can save you

also you can get an emulator for your games on your phone, a spare phone and installing GrapeneOS on it (uses the least energy, extremely lightweight OS) is a good idea, you can also use it to read ebooks, so your main phone is for important things like navigation and banking

 

[MetalBryan]

Here's a post I made about an alice pack I had when first starting to put it together.

https://squattheplanet.com/threads/my-alice-pack-and-carry-gear.36036/

Alice pack is okay but not great for the back especially when loaded up like it seems you're doing. There were some redundancies in my pack, just like on your list. If you're settled on the pack, before you buy all the other gear, load it up (follow a load guide for backpacking) with just random stuff from your pantry or house mimicking the same weight - then walk around.

Two things about your list - your papers is too many eggs in one basket. Find a safe place for your SS, Birth Cert, and ID with someone you trust that would be reliable in an emergency to mail them to you. Then just travel with your passport. Everywhere you need it will accept it as real ID. Second, if you have the money Whole Foods organic instant coffee is the best I've found by a long shot.

 

[theswirlyswoosh]

thank you for the tips !! i’ll look at the ALICE post and try the preload thing. as for papers, it sounds like a good idea too. appreciate you!

 

[theswirlyswoosh]

Looks good to me, if a little heavy.

Some people bring a favorite or meaningful book, but I would recommend just ditching it and reading on your phone instead. Ditto Gameboy, you can play those same games in an emulator on your phone. Flashlight and maps? Also on your phone. Knife, saw and Leatherman duplicate each other too, imo, but some people love those multitools. Bear in mind you're not gonna be able to take that kind of stuff on a plane unless it's checked baggage so don't waste too much money on it if you plan to fly anywhere.

If you want a personal recommendation on hygiene, depending where you plan to go, sun block is going to be more valuable than chap stick, unless you completely cover up from neck to ankle like a Bedouin. On similar note, anywhere hot, flip-flops or sandals could be a lifesaver. Upside, you can lose the thermals if you're sticking to warmer climates, and your sleep system will be lighter too. Replacing your hoodie with a puffy jacket which can be rolled up very tiny or a merino wool longsleeve that is light and dries fast might make you look like a yuppie hiker douchebag, but your body will thank you for not lugging heavy cotton shit all over the world. Ditto jeans, work pants with some polyester or nylon will dry faster and weigh less.

thank you! i’ll cut down my list as far as i can

 

[PurplePanda420]

drop 50% of the tools and papers. This screams Greenhorn… Gameboy 😂

 

[theswirlyswoosh]

drop 50% of the tools and papers. This screams Greenhorn… Gameboy 😂

got it, probably shouldve clarified in the list that with most papers im just making sure i have them in a safe place before hitting the road - probably just taking my id / license. as for the gameboy ik i can just use phone emulators, but everyones gotta have that one “luxury” item on their travels right? 😂

 

[PurplePanda420]

got it, probably shouldve clarified in the list that with most papers im just making sure i have them in a safe place before hitting the road - probably just taking my id / license. as for the gameboy ik i can just use phone emulators, but everyones gotta have that one “luxury” item on their travels right? 😂

Right.

 

[MetalBryan]

got it, probably shouldve clarified in the list that with most papers im just making sure i have them in a safe place before hitting the road - probably just taking my id / license. as for the gameboy ik i can just use phone emulators, but everyones gotta have that one “luxury” item on their travels right? 😂

I could absolutely do away with a "tactical spork" but this item is my favorite thing.

KA-BAR: Spork & Knife

Spork & Knife

www.kabar.com

 

[Groundscore]

I didn't see paracord on there, I would add that. Ditch the fence cutters; climb, or go around, don't destroy.

 

[theswirlyswoosh]

I didn't see paracord on there, I would add that. Ditch the fence cutters; climb, or go around, don't destroy.

gotcha

 

[TheDesertMouse]

A good leatherman will have a can opener, knife and saw on it. So you can ditch those other items. I have the Surge model, that fucker can actually cut the weaker fences. The more robust ones I can do but it takes a while and its easy to break the (replaceable) jaws.

Concider a small fixed blade full tang knife. Far superior for every kind of knife work.

I would ditch the portable charger. Its easy enough to keep your shit charged unless you use your phone too much.

Dont bring jeans. Cotton sucks in cold weather because if it gets wet it wont keep you warm. In warmer weather its too hot and restrictive. Cotton Kills. Just eliminate cotton from your kit except for bandanas or something. Wool or synthetics all the way.

You miiight have too much clothes. Thats personal preference though. Think in layers. I have zip off pants which allows me to eliminate the extra pair of shorts.

Add a good rain jacket and rain pants to the list. You WILL need them.

Get a rain cover for your pack. Honestly ALICE packs are really outdated, unnecessarily heavy unless your carrying 100+lbs and need that heavy frame. Spend the money on a good hiking pack and save yourself 10 lbs.

I wouldnt bring your original SS card or birth certificate. Its unnecissary and will just get lost/damaged. Make copies. Dito on proof of residency, unless your not a full citizen of coarse.

Get a headlamp not a flashlight. They’re so fucking useful I concider it mandatory.

MRE’s are actually not easy to find and are universally overpriced for what you get. They taste like shit, and are shit. Just eat real food.

Bring something like vaseline or body glide. Great for chafing, superior chap stick. Can be used to start fires.

Definetley bring rope/paracord. Practice setting up your shelter before you go so you know what you need.

Fire starting tools are nice.

Jusy download maps onto your phone. A “pocket” atlas thats detailed enough to be useful is not a pocket item. You can pick up free/cheap road maps on the way. Honestly I only bring maps for wilderness areas or foreign countries where my phone dont work.

Get a small pot to cook food in. I have a little 4cup titanium deal that works great. Doubles as a drink mug and is light.

Finally, list the contents of your medkit and repair kit please.

 

[theswirlyswoosh]

Thanks for all the information!! will be taking everything into account - as for the medkit / repair kit, i havent planned them. Im not hitting the road anytime soon, right now im just daydreaming.. but will definitely plan them eventually. Unfortunately im cursed to be a stationary spectator here for… a while. trying to hit the road ASAP but it’s gonna be a while