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Boy I hope they contain that shit in TX. Our college is working on something as we have students from around the world here - and they go home to visit ... This states how long it lives in semen and blood - was wondering more about the saliva. Article also states that it is only infectious AFTER the victim becomes ill. So how come the people on the airline and family members who came in contact with guy in TX are being monitored for this when he was supposedly "not" infectious at the time?
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You've heard it again and again: to get Ebola, you need to have direct contact with the bodily fluids — such as vomit, urine, or blood — of someone who is already sick and symptomatic to get the disease.
But what, exactly, does that mean? Here's a more concrete guide on how the virus can move from one person to another.
How you can get Ebola
1) You can get the virus if you have "direct contact" with a range of bodily fluids from a sick person, including blood, saliva, breast milk, stool, semen, tears, vomit, and urine. "Direct contact" means these fluids need to get into your broken skin (such as a wound) or touch your mucous membranes (mouth, nose, eyes, vagina).
2) So you can get Ebola by kissing or sharing food with someone who is infectious.
3) Mothers with Ebola can give the disease to their babies. Ebola spreads through breastfeeding — even after recovery from the disease. As one study put it, "It seems prudent to advise breastfeeding mothers who survive (Ebola) to avoid breastfeeding for at least some weeks after recovery and to provide them with alternative means of feeding their infants."
THE EBOLA VIRUS HAS BEEN ABLE TO LIVE IN SEMEN FOR UP TO 82 DAYS4) You can get Ebola through sex with an Ebola patient. The virus has been able to live in semen up to 82 days after a patient became symptomatic, which means sexual transmission — even with someone who has survived the disease for months — is possible.
5) You can get the virus by eating wild animals infected with Ebola or coming into contact with their bodily fluids. The fruit bat is believed to be the animal reservoir for Ebola, and when it's prepared for a meal or eaten raw, people get sick.
So you can get the virus through exposure to bat secretions. However, if you cook a bat infected with Ebola and then eat it, you won't get sick because the virus dies during cooking.
6) You can get Ebola through contact with an infected surface. Though Ebola is easily killed with disinfectants like bleach, if it isn't caught, it can live outside the body on, say, a doorknob or counter top, for several hours. In body fluids, like blood, the virus can survive for several days. So you'd need to touch an infected surface, and then put your hands in your mouth and eyes.
This is why the funerals of Ebola victims are problematic. Someone who has died from the virus will have a very high viral load. Since the virus can live in bodily fluids on their body, if you participate in the ritual washing of an Ebola victim and then touch your hands to your face, you could get the virus.
7) You could also get the virus by working in a biosafety-level-4 lab that studies Ebola, touching lab specimens, and then putting your contaminated hands in your mouth, eyes or a cut.
8) You can get Ebola by being pricked with a needle or syringe that has been contaminated with the virus. This has been a source of transmission for health workers, but unless you're sharing needles with Ebola victims, this isn't likely.
How you can't get Ebola
1) You can't get Ebola from someone who is not already sick. The virus only turns up in people's bodily fluids after a person starts to feel ill, and only then can they spread it to another person.
This is why health officials say they are not worried about the other passengers on the Texas patient's flight into the United States. At that time, the patient was asymptomatic and therefore not a risk to those around him.
YOU CAN'T GET EBOLA FROM MOSQUITOES2) You can't get Ebola from mosquitoes. The CDC says, "Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys and apes) have shown the ability to spread and become infected with Ebola virus."
3) You usually can't get Ebola through coughing or sneezing. The virus isn't airborne, thankfully, and experts expect that it will never become airborne. But, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said, "If a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person's eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease." This happens rarely and usually only affects health workers or those caring for the sick.
The bottom line: Ebola is difficult to catch
As you'll probably have noted, Ebola isn't very easy to transmit. The scenarios under which it spreads are very specific. And Ebola doesn't spread quickly, either. A mathematical epidemiologist who studies Ebola wrote in the Washington Post, "The good news is that Ebola has a lower reproductive rate than measles in the pre-vaccination days or the Spanish flu." He found that each Ebola case produces between 1.3 and 1.8 secondary cases. That means an Ebola victim usually only infects about one other person. Compare that with measles, which creates 17 secondary cases.
If you do the math, that means a single case in the US could lead to one or two others, but since we have robust public health measures here, it probably won't go further than that. Compare that to West Africa, which is now dealing with upwards of 6,000 cases in a completely broken health system. That's whereexperts say the worry about Ebola should be placed.
Most people's views of Ebola are probably informed by Hollywood \u2014 they think of it as a deadly and contagious virus that swirls around the world, striking everyone in its path and causing them to hemorrhage from their eyeballs, ears and mouth until there is no more blood to spill.
In reality, Ebola is something quite different. About half of the people who contract Ebola die. The others return to a normal life after a months-long recovery that can include periods of hair loss, sensory changes, weakness, fatigue, headaches, eye and liver inflammation.
As for the blood: While Ebola can cause people to hemorrhage, about half of Ebola sufferers ever experience that Biblical bleeding that's become synonymous with the virus.
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More often than not, Ebola strikes like the worst and most humiliating flu you could imagine. People get the sweats, along with body aches and pains. Then they start vomiting and having uncontrollable diarrhea. These symptoms can appear anywhere between two and 21 days after exposure to the virus. Sometimes, they go into shock. Sometimes, they bleed. Again, about half of those infected with the virus die, and this usually happens fairly quickly \u2014 within a few days or a couple of weeks of getting sick.
There are five strains of Ebola, four of which have caused the disease in humans: Zaire, Sudan, Ta\u00ef Forest, and Bundibugyo. The fifth, Reston, has infected nonhuman primates only. Though scientists haven't been able to confirm this, the animal host of Ebola is widely believed to be the fruit bat, and the virus only seldomly makes the leap into humans.
The Ebola virus is extremely rare. Among the leading causes of death in Africa, it only accounts for a tiny fraction. People are much more likely to die from AIDS, respiratory infections, or diarrhea, as you can see.
The current outbreak involves the Zaire strain, which was discovered in 1976 \u2014 the year Ebola was first identified in what was then Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo). That same year, the virus was also discovered in South Sudan.
Since 1976, there have only been about 20 known Ebola outbreaks. Until last year, the\u00a0 total impact of these outbreaks included 2,357 cases and 1,548 deaths, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They all occurred in isolated or remote areas of Africa, and Ebola never had a chance to go very far.
And that's what makes the 2014 outbreak so remarkable: the virus has spread to five countries in Africa plus America, and has already infected more than 6,200 people. It has killed more than 3,000 people. That is more than double the sum total of all previous outbreaks combined.
http://www.vox.com/2014/10/1/6878695/ebola-virus-outbreak-symptoms
Boy I hope they contain that shit in TX. Our college is working on something as we have students from around the world here - and they go home to visit ... This states how long it lives in semen and blood - was wondering more about the saliva. Article also states that it is only infectious AFTER the victim becomes ill. So how come the people on the airline and family members who came in contact with guy in TX are being monitored for this when he was supposedly "not" infectious at the time? ---------------------------------------------------
You've heard it again and again: to get Ebola, you need to have direct contact with the bodily fluids — such as vomit, urine, or blood — of someone who is already sick and symptomatic to get the disease.
But what, exactly, does that mean? Here's a more concrete guide on how the virus can move from one person to another.
How you can get Ebola
1) You can get the virus if you have "direct contact" with a range of bodily fluids from a sick person, including blood, saliva, breast milk, stool, semen, tears, vomit, and urine. "Direct contact" means these fluids need to get into your broken skin (such as a wound) or touch your mucous membranes (mouth, nose, eyes, vagina).
2) So you can get Ebola by kissing or sharing food with someone who is infectious.
3) Mothers with Ebola can give the disease to their babies. Ebola spreads through breastfeeding — even after recovery from the disease. As one study put it, "It seems prudent to advise breastfeeding mothers who survive (Ebola) to avoid breastfeeding for at least some weeks after recovery and to provide them with alternative means of feeding their infants."
THE EBOLA VIRUS HAS BEEN ABLE TO LIVE IN SEMEN FOR UP TO 82 DAYS4) You can get Ebola through sex with an Ebola patient. The virus has been able to live in semen up to 82 days after a patient became symptomatic, which means sexual transmission — even with someone who has survived the disease for months — is possible.
5) You can get the virus by eating wild animals infected with Ebola or coming into contact with their bodily fluids. The fruit bat is believed to be the animal reservoir for Ebola, and when it's prepared for a meal or eaten raw, people get sick.
So you can get the virus through exposure to bat secretions. However, if you cook a bat infected with Ebola and then eat it, you won't get sick because the virus dies during cooking.
6) You can get Ebola through contact with an infected surface. Though Ebola is easily killed with disinfectants like bleach, if it isn't caught, it can live outside the body on, say, a doorknob or counter top, for several hours. In body fluids, like blood, the virus can survive for several days. So you'd need to touch an infected surface, and then put your hands in your mouth and eyes.
This is why the funerals of Ebola victims are problematic. Someone who has died from the virus will have a very high viral load. Since the virus can live in bodily fluids on their body, if you participate in the ritual washing of an Ebola victim and then touch your hands to your face, you could get the virus.
7) You could also get the virus by working in a biosafety-level-4 lab that studies Ebola, touching lab specimens, and then putting your contaminated hands in your mouth, eyes or a cut.
8) You can get Ebola by being pricked with a needle or syringe that has been contaminated with the virus. This has been a source of transmission for health workers, but unless you're sharing needles with Ebola victims, this isn't likely.
How you can't get Ebola
1) You can't get Ebola from someone who is not already sick. The virus only turns up in people's bodily fluids after a person starts to feel ill, and only then can they spread it to another person.
This is why health officials say they are not worried about the other passengers on the Texas patient's flight into the United States. At that time, the patient was asymptomatic and therefore not a risk to those around him.
YOU CAN'T GET EBOLA FROM MOSQUITOES2) You can't get Ebola from mosquitoes. The CDC says, "Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys and apes) have shown the ability to spread and become infected with Ebola virus."
3) You usually can't get Ebola through coughing or sneezing. The virus isn't airborne, thankfully, and experts expect that it will never become airborne. But, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said, "If a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person's eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease." This happens rarely and usually only affects health workers or those caring for the sick.
The bottom line: Ebola is difficult to catch
As you'll probably have noted, Ebola isn't very easy to transmit. The scenarios under which it spreads are very specific. And Ebola doesn't spread quickly, either. A mathematical epidemiologist who studies Ebola wrote in the Washington Post, "The good news is that Ebola has a lower reproductive rate than measles in the pre-vaccination days or the Spanish flu." He found that each Ebola case produces between 1.3 and 1.8 secondary cases. That means an Ebola victim usually only infects about one other person. Compare that with measles, which creates 17 secondary cases.
If you do the math, that means a single case in the US could lead to one or two others, but since we have robust public health measures here, it probably won't go further than that. Compare that to West Africa, which is now dealing with upwards of 6,000 cases in a completely broken health system. That's whereexperts say the worry about Ebola should be placed.
Most people's views of Ebola are probably informed by Hollywood \u2014 they think of it as a deadly and contagious virus that swirls around the world, striking everyone in its path and causing them to hemorrhage from their eyeballs, ears and mouth until there is no more blood to spill.
In reality, Ebola is something quite different. About half of the people who contract Ebola die. The others return to a normal life after a months-long recovery that can include periods of hair loss, sensory changes, weakness, fatigue, headaches, eye and liver inflammation.
As for the blood: While Ebola can cause people to hemorrhage, about half of Ebola sufferers ever experience that Biblical bleeding that's become synonymous with the virus.
\r\n
More often than not, Ebola strikes like the worst and most humiliating flu you could imagine. People get the sweats, along with body aches and pains. Then they start vomiting and having uncontrollable diarrhea. These symptoms can appear anywhere between two and 21 days after exposure to the virus. Sometimes, they go into shock. Sometimes, they bleed. Again, about half of those infected with the virus die, and this usually happens fairly quickly \u2014 within a few days or a couple of weeks of getting sick.
There are five strains of Ebola, four of which have caused the disease in humans: Zaire, Sudan, Ta\u00ef Forest, and Bundibugyo. The fifth, Reston, has infected nonhuman primates only. Though scientists haven't been able to confirm this, the animal host of Ebola is widely believed to be the fruit bat, and the virus only seldomly makes the leap into humans.
The Ebola virus is extremely rare. Among the leading causes of death in Africa, it only accounts for a tiny fraction. People are much more likely to die from AIDS, respiratory infections, or diarrhea, as you can see.
The current outbreak involves the Zaire strain, which was discovered in 1976 \u2014 the year Ebola was first identified in what was then Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo). That same year, the virus was also discovered in South Sudan.
Since 1976, there have only been about 20 known Ebola outbreaks. Until last year, the\u00a0 total impact of these outbreaks included 2,357 cases and 1,548 deaths, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They all occurred in isolated or remote areas of Africa, and Ebola never had a chance to go very far.
And that's what makes the 2014 outbreak so remarkable: the virus has spread to five countries in Africa plus America, and has already infected more than 6,200 people. It has killed more than 3,000 people. That is more than double the sum total of all previous outbreaks combined.
http://www.vox.com/2014/10/1/6878695/ebola-virus-outbreak-symptoms
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Tude
Sometimes traveler is traveling.
yeah that is what the article states - yet this is from CNN today - unless they are taking no chances ... and are gathering everyone this guy came in contact with before and after showing signs of infection. article also states it's the first time he's been in the states.
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Health officials are reaching out to as many as 100 people who may have had contact with Duncan, a spokeswoman with the Texas Department of State Health Services said Thursday. These are people who are still being questioned because they may have crossed paths with the patient either at the hospital, at his apartment complex or in the community.
"Out of an abundance of caution, we're starting with this very wide net, including people who have had even brief encounters with the patient or the patient's home," spokeswoman Carrie Williams said. "The number will drop as we focus in on those whose contact may represent a potential risk of infection."
The number of direct contacts who have been identified and are being monitored right now is "more than 12," a federal official told CNN on Thursday.
(I didn't copy entire article as the internets are loaded with this at the moment)
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/02/health/ebola-us/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
dude, you can't catch ebola from dumpster diving. like a lot of what @Tude posted above, unless your food is covered in bodily secretions or animal shit (extremely unlikely), you're not going to get ebola from dumpster diving. in fact, no on i've ever known that has dumpster dived has ever gotten sick from it. ever.
just be smart. don't take home a bunch of produce that's been sitting in a bunch of rotting meat all day. wash your veggies when you get home. check the product for mold. you know, all the things you would normally do with food. the one benefit of the USA's obsession with plastic packaging is that the majority of stuff you get out of the dumpster is going to have a protective layer over it.
no one should fear food from the dumpster.
just be smart. don't take home a bunch of produce that's been sitting in a bunch of rotting meat all day. wash your veggies when you get home. check the product for mold. you know, all the things you would normally do with food. the one benefit of the USA's obsession with plastic packaging is that the majority of stuff you get out of the dumpster is going to have a protective layer over it.
no one should fear food from the dumpster.
not so much dumpster food fear but clamshells and takeout boxes from random people found outside of restaurants or in the trash sometimes full of food that makes me nervous
again, very unlikely. considering that in 2014 there were 600 cases of ebola infection, and 300 of those survived... making your odds of getting the ebola virus roughly about 0.01 percent.
Tude
Sometimes traveler is traveling.
Aaaargh! Stay outta me slimey, bearded, ebola and rat infested dumpsters.
They're all mine
LOL where were you mmmmmmmmichael when I was doing warrior dash 5k - you would have loved these delicious dumpsters! - and had to do 4 of these nasties in the first leg of the race - you know they didn't bother to clean them out before they added more mud and water. Smelled pretty rude too. Woe to the ones who fell down in them too - you know you ate some.
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Dameon
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Seems pretty unlikely you'll catch it from leftovers, even if you had the supremely bad luck to get leftovers from somebody that had ebola, which isn't many like Matt said. And they would've had to, like, drool all over their food.
just read an article about how people offered bids to do hazmat on the guy's apartment refused. plus the response from the guy's local hospital was neglectful to the point where they were handling his infected bedsheets like normal and let him walk from the hospital sick. he then was vomiting up everywhere. i donno. i think the "oh we're the united states" mentality might end up being our downfall since it leaves the blindspot of pride and that comes before any fall
Boneless
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It's moments like these that I'm glad that I live on a desert island.
If ebola were widespread here, I wouldn't be anywhere near a dumpster and I'd probably wear one of those Michael Jackson masks.
You may not be able to get ebola from a dumpster, but you absolutely are able to get ebola from whatever was used to mop up the puke and diarrhea from an infected individual and placed in a dumpster.
I can dumpster dive in West Africa and prove it.
Errrr. Scratch that, maybe not.
You may not be able to get ebola from a dumpster, but you absolutely are able to get ebola from whatever was used to mop up the puke and diarrhea from an infected individual and placed in a dumpster.
I can dumpster dive in West Africa and prove it.
Errrr. Scratch that, maybe not.
yeah scary for sure. yet i had a revelation last night and thought a bit about it... i'm like come at me ebrola cuz if it's gonna be a pandemic there's no use pussyfooting around since some foodservice workers don't wash their hands and could pass it on even if i'm wearing a mask and gloves and obsessively washing my hands. in other words why walk around scared
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