I need your help.

[astridxx]

I am only here to try and solve the identity of someone who was found deceased on top of a train in Beaver Co., UT., mid-January of this year.

Does anyone recognize her? I came to your forum because, like I said, she was found atop a train that had traveled from Las Vegas to Beaver County. She was wearing a black t-shirt and black yoga pants (Old Navy) brand. Had a black and metal ring and a black bracelet. No shoes though. Above is a reconstruction done by a member of websleuths of the decedent's face, as well as a more clear picture of the tattoo she had on her back. I can provide the link to the morgue photo if anyone thinks they may recognize her.

I sincerely hope someone knows her and we can give her her name back!!!!

 

[Tick Dickler]

whats your relation to this girl? im not doubting you or anything, im just wondering. you should probably contact the police too. (im sure you already have)
no one in their right mind would ride a train in yoga pants and without shoes. did she have a backpack on her? it doesnt sound like she just hopped a train for fun. it almost sounds like she was robbed or something.
you should try to reverse image search her morgue photo. her facebook/ whatever social media might pop up. its a long shot, but its s method that has identified victims before.

 

[Deleted member 20]

That's one hell of a weird introduction.Who uses the word decedent? In what capacity are you inquiring about this? Are you a coroner? Cop? WTF is a websleuth? No footwear, pack or outerwear in the middle of January? Just some black yoga pants & a t shirt? Found atop a train? Like on the top of a grainer, maybe she was dumped there from a bridge already dead? Who rides on top of cars????

 

[Tick Dickler]

That's one hell of a weird introduction.Who uses the word decedent? In what capacity are you inquiring about this? Are you a coroner? Cop? WTF is a websleuth? No footwear, pack or outerwear in the middle of January? Just some black yoga pants & a t shirt? Found atop a train? Like on the top of a grainer, maybe she was dumped there from a bridge already dead? Who rides on top of cars????

^this.
i havent even train hopped and i know for sure that it sounds crazy. can i get the morgue photo? or is it to much to ask? was she murdered? it is cause of death confirmed? you need to post more info.

 

[lry]

I sincerely hope someone knows her and we can give her her name back!!!!

Who's we? Don't think that girl was a rider, she probably just got dumped there. If she did ride with what you described she probably died from exposure. Who knows, good luck though.

 

[astridxx]

whats your relation to this girl? im not doubting you or anything, im just wondering. you should probably contact the police too. (im sure you already have)
no one in their right mind would ride a train in yoga pants and without shoes. did she have a backpack on her? it doesnt sound like she just hopped a train for fun. it almost sounds like she was robbed or something.
you should try to reverse image search her morgue photo. her facebook/ whatever social media might pop up. its a long shot, but its s method that has identified victims before.

She was posted on NAMUS and Websleuths recently. She was found 2 1/2 hours after the train pulled into the Milford, UT station. The cops already know but have no clue who she is. I don't think there were other belongings with her.

Thank you for your reply!!!

 

[astridxx]

That's one hell of a weird introduction.Who uses the word decedent? In what capacity are you inquiring about this? Are you a coroner? Cop? WTF is a websleuth? No footwear, pack or outerwear in the middle of January? Just some black yoga pants & a t shirt? Found atop a train? Like on the top of a grainer, maybe she was dumped there from a bridge already dead? Who rides on top of cars????

I use the word "decedent," simply because I prefer it. I stated in my intro that I was only here to see if you guys could help me. I know NOTHING about hitch-hiking or train hopping, so it's obvious I would be oblivious to whether or not she is a hitch-hiker. I came to your forum, specifically, because she was found on a train -- and I don't know where I could turn to find people who ride the rails.

 

[astridxx]

^this.
i havent even train hopped and i know for sure that it sounds crazy. can i get the morgue photo? or is it to much to ask? was she murdered? it is cause of death confirmed? you need to post more info.

I will PM you, I can't post links yet.

 

[Deleted member 20]

I guess web sleuths are bored ass wannabe detectives who try to solve cases?
Ok so she looks pretty old & rough but that could be from the computer reconstruction program. Most riders these days tend to be a bit younger but that inst the rule. Most experienced riders riding in the winter would have a shit load of gear & quality insulated boots on. The t shirt actually looks crusty as fuck, she does have a hippie tattoo? Where is her footwear? Did she suffer trauma that casued them to be removed? Were her legs cut off? Where is her gear? outerwear? sleeping bag? pack? Whats the cause of death? drug overdose? exposure? other? She was probably a junkie prostitute from Vegas. Her teeth don't look so great. Where on the train was she found??????

 

[Deleted member 20]

The plot thickens

 

[astridxx]

I guess web sleuths are bored ass wannabe detectives who try to solve cases?
Ok so she looks pretty old & rough but that could be from the computer reconstruction program. Most riders these days tend to be a bit younger but that inst the rule. Most experienced riders riding in the winter would have a shit load of gear & quality insulated boots on. The t shirt actually looks crusty as fuck, she does have a hippie tattoo? Where is her footwear? Did she suffer trauma that casued them to be removed? Were her legs cut off? Where is her gear? outerwear? sleeping bag? pack? Whats the cause of death? drug overdose? exposure? other? She was probably a junkie prostitute from Vegas. Her teeth don't look so great. Where on the train was she found??????

Yes, we are "bored ass wanna be detectives."

Anyway, the t-shirt on the artist's rendering isn't the one she was found in. According to NAMUS her entire body was intact.

Anyway, I came hoping maybe one of you could help identify her. She looks like she could be a squatter or a train hitcher. Though I do like the prostitute/body dump idea. However, I don't think cops found any visible trauma to her body.

 

[Tick Dickler]

I will PM you, I can't post links yet.

okay im posting this here so that other people can correct me. judging from the pics/ info, she is not a train hopper. it seriously looks like she was murdered. theres not enough dirt on her knees and clothes and pants overall, so she did not climb onto the train. trains are extremely dirty and rusty. the marks on her backs imply a fall. if she froze to death she would be curled up in a ball. she might be a prostitute, and judging from her teeth/ gums it looked like she did some hard drugs. compare them with meth teeth pics. my guess is she either fell jumped onto the train/ she was dumped onto it/ someone placed here there. no way she climbed up there. she would be covered in dirt and rust.

 

[astridxx]

It's not what I wanted to hear (I was hoping someone would know her) -- but it is INCREDIBLY helpful. Thank you so much for your input, Tick!!

 

[Kim Chee]

I'll also vote for the train as being the vehicle for transporting a body.

She looks like many travelers I've seen, but not anybody who I would know. I'll agree with others who mentioned clothing: most people wouldn't go outside to get the newspaper dressed like that in January.

The cops have a key tidbit of info that you don't:
They know every stop that train made.

 

[Deleted member 20]

If you take the crusty shirt away & all we got is old navy yoga pants & tshirt with a single hippie tattoo with a ring & bracelet. She just sounds like your typical white trash junkie. I want to know why she was on our trains? We dont exactly need more attention. If there was any questions of foul play it would have been much easier to throw her from/under the moving train if she had an altercation with other hoppers. Perhaps she was high/drunk & got robbed? Perhaps a serial killer is abducting junkie prostitutes in vegas then planting the bodies on trains to throw off the scent of where the crimes took place.

 

[astridxx]

Yeah, I feel bad for suggesting she'd be one of you guys. Believe me. But I have/had nothing to go on other than "she was found on top of a train and has a weed tattoo" (not saying you guys do drugs but.. you know LOL)

@mmmmmmmmmmmmichael, even in Nevada/Utah? The route I traced from Milford, UT (where she was found) back to Las Vegas, NV (where the train left from according to LE) -- was pretty desolate and went through mountains and tunnels (which isn't train hopping atop the cars dangerous for that reason alone -- the tunnels?)

 

[Deleted member 20]

It doesnt look like a weed tattoo to me. I just thought it was a peace sign type sun thingy. Perhaps she was a bad ass extreme yoga practicer & was meditating on top of the train in sub zero conditions, hence the no shoes & yoga pants.

 

[astridxx]

Let me also add, the coroner's report was so graphic as to say her leg hair had been grown out considerably as was her vag hair.... still thinking prostitute?

 

[astridxx]

It doesnt look like a weed tattoo to me. I just thought it was a peace sign type sun thingy. Perhaps she was a bad ass extreme yoga practicer & was meditating on top of the train in sub zero conditions, hence the no shoes & yoga pants.

That doesn't look like a marijuana leaf to you? Notice the shorter leaves on the bottom, the longer ones on the side and the single, pointed one at the top?

 

[Deleted member 20]

They kinda look like feathers in the tat.