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There has been a bunch of this stuff around the country - FL arresting charitable people from feeding the homeless, here where I live in Rochester NY - locking up the civic garage so the homeless couldn't sleep in there (ha cause people didn't want to see that as well as some new high rise tenants) and how about this in France. Anti-homeless cages. Well they just locked out anyone who wanted to sit down as well. Merry Christmas.

http://news24now.net/news/france-puts-up-antihomeless-cages-around-park-benches-for-christmas

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It may well be the season of goodwill to all men.

But that did not stop a mayor in south-west France installing metal cages over public benches to banish homeless people from the city.

Xavier Bonnefont, Angouleme's 34-year-old Right-wing mayor, has been criticised for his lack of empathy and Christmas spirit.

The mayor put up the cages on Christmas Eve in an effort to prevent 'drunk people' snoozing on the benches.

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Cages were installed around public benches to prevent homeless people sleeping on it during Christmas

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The cages were inserted in Angouleme, in south-west France, to try and banish homeless people from the city

Joel Guitton, deputy mayor in charge of security, defended the move, saying the benches were 'almost exclusively used by people who consume alcohol on a regular basis'.

The decision was taken 'in concert with local traders' who had complained to authorities that the drunken tramps' threatening behaviour was bad for business, he added.

Regional daily newspaper Sud Ouest alleged the Champ de Mars square housing the benches had become the scene of fights between homeless people, often provoked by drugs and involving dogs.

But the move sparked a wave of criticism, with people calling the measure 'abominable' and 'sickening'.

'What a shame, this is not France,' declared Guillaume Garot, a former Socialist MP and Bonnefont's political opponent.

One commentator on Twitter even suggested the mayor will go one step further next year and 'electrify' the cages.

Alexandre Chemetoff, the urban architect who designed the square, described the move as 'scandalous and inappropriate', telling Libération newspaper it was proof of 'political failure' as it suggested the 'only safe places left are private ones'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...blic-benches-Christmas-Eve.html#ixzz3NLsTuaDm
 

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Wow... Tude. Good info... I want to go medieval on these idiots. ::grumpy::
 
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I looked into the Columbia, SC situation, and it looks like it was a real thing, but the decision was quickly rescinded after serious complaints from the community.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/columbia-criminalizing-homelessness_n_3866273.html

Columbia, South Carolina has decided to rescind its controversial decision to criminalize homelessness after facing major backlash from police, city workers and advocates.

Columbia’s city council decided on Tuesday to reverse its unanimous vote that would have given homeless people the choice to either go to a remote shelter or get arrested, according to the Free Times. The council apologized, backtracked on its decision and said it would give homeless people the option to go to the shelter, but would not force them to.

“I will take responsibility for that getting into the public discourse,” Councilman Cameron Runyan said on Tuesday about his suggestion to force homeless people into confinement, according to the Free Times. “That is not the desire…We are not going to forcibly confine anyone.”

Runyan’s softer stance is a far cry from his stern Aug. 13 declaration.

Last month, after bemoaning the fact that Columbia’s Downtown area had become a “magnet for homeless people,” the council decided that it would make loitering and panhandling in the area illegal and it would make homeless people go to a 240-person bed shelter or go to prison. The measure would have required additional police to round up homeless people and to stand guard at the facility to make sure that no one left without permission.

But even the members of the law enforcement who would have been needed to carry out the plan would not get on board.

“Homelessness is not a crime,” Interim Police Chief Ruben Santiago told The State.“We can’t just take people to somewhere they don’t want to go. I can’t do that. I won’t do that.”

After paying heed to the concerns of those who opposed the plan, the city council has revamped the approach to putting an end to homelessness.

The city will dispense vans that will take people on the streets to the shelter, if they choose to go, and they will be able to stay there for a week before getting transferred to a more stable program that addresses their specific needs.

The city will also install public bathrooms and garbage cans and will educate people about the city’s loitering and panhandling policies by putting up explicit signs, according to the Free Times.

But the city council hasn’t smoothed out all of the program's kinks.

Runyan suggested using the homeless people’s food stamps, Social Security checks and other benefits to help pay to run the shelter, but some aren’t sure if that is legal. The shelter, which is poised to open at the end of the month, also doesn’t have kitchen facilities, so it’s still unclear how it will provide food to homeless people.

Still, advocates felt bolstered by the council’s willingness to compromise.

“The city of Columbia, Christ Central Ministries and service providers recognize that meeting the challenge of homelessness and poverty requires a community response and that this is a ‘we’ challenge, not a ‘them’ challenge," Mayor Steve Benjamin said, according to the State, "and never an effort to deprive any individuals of civil liberties or to criminalize poverty."
 
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Nice find @Kye!

And @Odin yeah - I mean seriously to cordon off a freaking city bench. I mean I do not know the answer to a city/my city's homeless solution other than helping out and helping the organizations that are here survive by volunteering, participating in charity events for them and giving money to them (including the humane society), did I tell you that I am tired hehe - I do a lot of volunteering, but man alive that gesture of sealing up a freaking city bench. heh that Mayor spent some "wise" money ....
 
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Remembers me of the anti-homeless spikes in UK a few months back.
I don't think it's really illegal to be homeless, but some people don't give a flying shit about them, and will do anything to appease their consciences by moving em out of their sights. Sickening.
 

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I wonder what superman would have to say about this....

I'm no comic extreme buff...(like em though)

but what would he say... I remember reading that,
as a kid.
...
some kinda superman vs doom scenario...

...

..
anyone every read that one. "The Death of Superman" vs Doomsday?

It was back then when I read the full compilation.
I cried at the end... when lois lain held clark kent broken in her arms. blood florescent on the pages with grime hair and dirt.

anyway... before I derail this thread with tails of a man faster than a speeding train...

I wonder if the imagination can create something better in the real world.

Don't get me wrong I live life...everyday.
But in a world where i think superman would not put up with this caging bull shit of the destitute...
I don't want to either.

House of El...
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stands for Hope.
 

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Fuck society!!!!! I'm not homeless the world is my home and if the idiots think they can stop me from traveling and staying where I want then all I have to say is, they don't know me to well because I will fight for my freedom. I will live free or I will die trying.
 

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It's illegal to be homeless where I live in Florida... you don't see bums anywhere in suburbia. It's fucked up that if you don't have enough money to buy a home, it's illegal.
 

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Those cages are gone now, for a while already , but that quote saying "this is not france" is quite funny with all the bullshit going on in france at the moment , a lot of these anti-homeless spikes rails and "decoration" have been put up in Paris and other cities , theres new legislation that makes dumpster diving a criminal activity (theft) , a lot of roma have been attacked on the streets sometimes with acid
more atrocities if you look a little closer..
hitchhiking also seems to be getting less and less accepted whereas not so long ago it was really common atleast in the some ("regular" kids/students and so on thumbing around)
 

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Those cages are gone now, for a while already , but that quote saying "this is not france" is quite funny with all the bullshit going on in france at the moment , a lot of these anti-homeless spikes rails and "decoration" have been put up in Paris and other cities , theres new legislation that makes dumpster diving a criminal activity (theft) , a lot of roma have been attacked on the streets sometimes with acid
more atrocities if you look a little closer..
hitchhiking also seems to be getting less and less accepted whereas not so long ago it was really common atleast in the some ("regular" kids/students and so on thumbing around)

Dumpster diving a CRIMINAL activity. Holy spaghetti monster balls.
WTF?
I thought France was supposed to be like chill or something fucking they had crazy cool philosophers like fucking Jean-Paul Sartre.
And after WWII there was the whole counter culture movement there too... fucking bohemians and shit.
Fucking worlds changing.
 

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Im not to sure what the other poster meant when he said "go mideviel" but im guessing it means kill them but you disagree is there somthing wrong with you...And your a mod?/

The OTHER POSTER ... was me.
I said Go medieval* on them.
Then I decided to express that I should restrain myself.
I am not really the biggest advocate of outright mindless violence.
And yes... there are many things wrong with me.
:D
Yea I am also a mod crazy huh?
 

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And I have to take off here in a sec... but I will look into if it is possible to change the flag... I am not sure if it is an automatic feature based on some internet wizardry I don't understand yet.
 

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OKay back for a second... As I said friend. I will look into it. I know that the flag issue has been a bit of a situation of contention here and is perhaps not easily made into an option. Don't know much about forums but may be an issue of modifying programming on a plugin or who knows?
Unfortunately will not be something that I can resolve for you right away or guarantee to resolve.
I will pm someone about it right now.
 

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Haha, good ol' FEMA camp rumor.

With benches in just about every major city in the US having been removed and altered, the only thing that surprises me about the bench cages is that people are surprised. Do people not notice that modern city benches aren't long enough to lay on, and have obstacles to prevent it? Those aren't arm rests, they're anti-homeless devices. Designing your city to be physically undesirable to the homeless has been going on for decades now.
 

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