I'd advise against camping illegally in the flint hills. Yeah u might not get caught but most of it is protected grassland. You could find yourself in a world of legal trouble if caught...just avoid people. look i know everyone tells you to head to the PNW forests and stuff, but thats considered pro-wilderness survivor. u needa start out something much more basic. i recommend the midwest. especially KS, OK, NE, MO, etc. we have lots of forest areas that arent as majestic as those in the west, but theyre still wild enough to train you.
1. Flint Hills - KS
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GO to the flint hills as your number one option. Its a large area encompassing much of eastern kansas, and it consists of many rolling hills dotted in woodland forests and many a river and stream. Its a perfect area to learn to live in the forest. The majority of the land is not owned. Alot of it is, but alot more isnt. As far as people goes, theres a very small chance of you having to worry about anyone spotting your camp, or spotting your presence. Theres various small towns that dot the landscape, but still spread out enough to make the area in betweens pretty damn rural.
2. The Ozarks - MO
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Ive been here alot of times, most of the time to actually camp, but ive also shown up a few times to just live in the woods. Most of the area from what ive seen that is around lakes and some of the rivers, have been turned into wilderness resorts, camping resorts etc. But alot of the rest of th eland is just government owned im assuming. The weather is a bit cooler than the flint hills though, and the forests seem to be a bit thicker.
Theres more too, Ks is literally riddled with them, but the flint hills is the most popular. The same goes for MO. OK, and NE, have various forest/wooded areas too, but ive never spent much time in them.
YOu dont wanna head all the ways out the west to get stuck up in some crazy extreme ecological system if u dnt know next to nothing about wilderness survival. Alot of it is common sense, but that being said you have to adjust you common sense to the different situations youll come across in different foresty areas, and trust me, its smarter to start with the basic.
Did you have any luck?Just made an account to reply to this thread. I've been searching the internet for this sort of advice and haven't yet found what I'm looking for…maybe it's my search terms that are inadequate, or more likely the people who do find these wild places keep quiet about them (and don't have the Internet). Bumping again in hopes that someone sees me and can reveal even *more* info…
I'm eyeing stretches of wilderness for the sake of primal living—for how long, who knows—and here are the useful posts I've found so far… this reddit post, a city-data.com post (only good responses are on p 3&4), this random infolific.com article, and of course this forum post we're on now, which may be the most helpful. My search has told me:
- The "Pacific Northwest" (of the States) keeps coming up. I'm hearing a lot of Idaho, Montana, and some votes for Washington (in that order). Idaho has the "River of No Return Wilderness" area in it, which is the U.S.'s second-largest wild area without paved roads (! nice). I don't recall specific recs for Montana, but for Washington, people mentioned the Cascades and Olympics.
- Canada got suggestions for most territories. The ones that matter most to me though are northern Alberta and northern Sask, just because I'm in NorCal right now so those are the closest.
- A spattering of random other states, including Utah, Arizona, Colorado…not as much consensus here though. Also Northern Maine (??? not sure about that.)
Aside from these reasonable-seeming suggestions for places in the wild where you might not have to worry in the back of your head about a forest ranger giving you shit, there were also some unreasonable suggestions such as:
- Southeast Alaska. Yes, it's within the realm of possibilities if you're a survival pro…not what I'm looking for though. I'm looking for a place to go full primal starting in the springtime. (Not a place to bring a loaded rifle and tons of warm clothes and other survival gear.)
- The Outback (Australia). Everything kills you (apparently). But from what I gather, the nobody-gives-a-shitness is even stronger than in Alaska's outback. Also, even though you'd have to learn about all the deadly things and their poisons, apparently food (hunting) is super abundant.
- There are obviously various other places that we're leaving out, like anywhere in the Amazon, the jungles of Africa, desert regions like in Mexico, the tundras of Russia…obviously no one's going to find you or bother you in those places, but you need some very specialized survival training to last very long.
- Nobody seems to be talking about New Zealand. Not sure why (other than flight costs, maybe?),
OTHER THINGS I'M THINKING ABOUT:
- I don't want to be in 'bear country' (i.e. Grizzly bears), and avoiding Lyme-carrying ticks would be nice. Mosquitoes, too, but not as worried there. I'm overlaying maps of each to help me think.
- I'm a 'U.S. Citizen' (lol)…so…not sure how that might complicate things. Never had much serious experience with the law, but I'm guessing it might be easier to explain myself to a ranger as a U.S. Citizen in the U.S. than as a 'visitor' in Canada? Or Australia? Etc etc. Especially if I end up throwing away my documentation when I make the move.
I just want to go somewhere where I can rest assured that even if someone finds me, they won't give me a hard time (or care much). I understand that's difficult to find.
What do you think? In any case, I think I'm going to do a 'test run' of all of this soon—with a backup plan, some gear, and my bank account still open, of course…but eventually, the point is to close all of that down, throw it all away, and live *only* with nature. Just me and my body. And the woods.
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