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"Every scientific man in order to preserve his reputation has to say he dislikes metaphysics. What he means is he dislikes having his metaphysics criticized." Alfred Whitehead, coauthor with Russell of principia mathematica

You goofies are trying it. You do know that the phrase "turtles all the way down" was the invention of western philosophy nerds illustrating the problem of induction? That it was falsely attributed to "hindu's" as some kind of world myth, but that it fundamentally illustrates the impossibility...

At what point do you just get a better hobby, and move on? If you're mad at mass hallucinations, why not take it out on the one that actually matters: money. If you're obsessed with religious experience, why not engage with it in a meaningful way? (Carl Sagan seems to be a very competent...