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Hi, my name is Kim. I'm almost 58 years old and at a breaking point. I feel I have two choices - end everything or run away. I need to try to finally have a life of my own. A life where I'm not being abused or taken advantage of by people who are supposed to love and/or have some kind of respect for me.

I had a tough childhood and because of this, I've had a tough adulthood. Since I was a child, due to my mother's abuse, I've always felt like a misfit. Due to feeling like a misfit I kept to myself & had poor communication skills with others, which in turn left me to my own devices in figuring out life. I've always given credit to the few people in my life who I've termed showed me "quiet compassionate love". This is what enabled me to form a decent amount of morals and values. I thought if I worked hard and did the right thing, I would eventually succeed & fit into society, but it's difficult to succeed as a low income woman raising 3 children on her own while feeling like a misfit, having poor communication skills and trying to balance your parental and financial responsibilities. Needless to say, I didn't succeed very much in the workforce or as a parent. I've learned over the years that most of Corporate America will take advantage of their employees through low pay and setting things up where employees feel obligated to work overtime without pay. They will continually throw away the very people who have dedicated themselves to their companies through layoffs and closing their doors primarily due to greed. They are tied to the political arena just so they can establish laws to cover their butts (I learned this when my 16 year old son was killed by a train that wasn't adequately gated) and if you try to push them a bit into doing the right thing, they will black ball you and know they can get away with whatever they want to do in order to force you to leave. I’ve seen them use others as scape goats to cover their butts and throw away good guys just to keep the ones they deem “more valuable” to them. My current position at work is one that our large company seems to only hire women to fill. I worked this position without any paid time off, holiday pay or benefits. I worked through breaks, through my lunches and past quitting time, with strict rules there was no overtime. The pay was so little; I had to sell a decent vehicle to get rent money. After 2 1/2 years they forced the lady I was meant to replace into retirement and hired me. A year ago after doing a very good job in this position for 5 years, I tried to get into a better position which they were not happy about because my position is hard to fill and they mostly hire men into their sales positions. But I pushed by asking them if they were telling me that there wasn't room for advancement in my position, which in turn has left me experiencing things that have me questioning if they are trying to force me out. As of now, I’ve now trained my replacement and I’ve been training for a sales position. They now want to put me in the hot warehouse on the pretense that it will help me to learn more about our product in order to get into a sales position, when the truth is, like many of the salesmen, I’m learning more about our product by selling at our counter and selling to our established customers. So now I have a choice of taking my almost 58 year old self with a heart condition in the warehouse to pick and pull orders where in the summer will be over 100 degrees, I can look for another job and start all over again or I can do what I’ve been wanting to do for years now and live off the grid. My will and determination to keep chiseling away at things has turned into the realization that I will never have a halfway decent life of my own where I can enjoy a few things in life. For the past several years my desire has been to get away from Corporate America and get away from the family who has little respect for me, makes self-serving poor choices in life, drains me of the little bit of extra money I have, expects me to house them and be their child care. I want to learn how I can escape and retire from all this. I don't want to live off handouts. As hard as it was, I've used little financial assistance over the years. Family suspicions are that when my leg was broken at 6 months old, my mother was “being too rough with me”. So when I say my life has been difficult for almost 58 years, I mean latterly since I was born and I’m tired of investing in things that obviously aren't paying off. I want to live off the grid and be self-sufficient on my own and have more control over my life. I'm looking for advice on how I could do this.
 
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Welcome Kim, it's great to hear that you are ready to pursue your dream.

I live off grid, on 40 acres in the middle of nowhere.
Set-up costs a lot of money... at least the way my huz and I try to get established out here. We had to secure land, shelter (a 5th wheel), power supply, and water collection/ storage. That took all of our savings plus the profit from selling our house. (Some of that went to moving expences too.) Then, if you want to build a "real" shelter, you'll have permits to buy and gov't hoops to jump. They want to have something to say about how you can poop too. Anyway, just make sure you research all this before you leap in. Growing your own food, figuring out how to maintain an income, getting your body ready for the enormous amount of physical labor required... it all takes time.

There are other ways though. You can start up your own place on land that a friend or family owns, or you can work on someone else's plot in exchange for a place to stay. Ianto Evans lists some great options for getting started on your own in the book: The Hand-Sculpted House, specifically chapter 3: Creative Economics. I also highly recommend the forums at permies.com.

I'm so glad you are ready to take matters into your own hands. Nothing would revolutionize this country's corporate control over us more than all the good workers like you pushing away from their desks and saying, "no more." Remember what you've learned: they need you, but you don't need them. Life gets tougher when you wean yourself off corporate America's teat, but freedom is your reward.
 
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Welcome Kim, it's great to hear that you are ready to pursue your dream.

I live off grid, on 40 acres in the middle of nowhere.
Set-up costs a lot of money... at least the way my huz and I try to get established out here. We had to secure land, shelter (a 5th wheel), power supply, and water collection/ storage. That took all of our savings plus the profit from selling our house. (Some of that went to moving expences too.) Then, if you want to build a "real" shelter, you'll have permits to buy and gov't hoops to jump. They want to have something to say about how you can poop too. Anyway, just make sure you research all this before you leap in. Growing your own food, figuring out how to maintain an income, getting your body ready for the enormous amount of physical labor required... it all takes time.

There are other ways though. You can start up your own place on land that a friend or family owns, or you can work on someone else's plot in exchange for a place to stay. Ianto Evans lists some great options for getting started on your own in the book: The Hand-Sculpted House, specifically chapter 3: Creative Economics. I also highly recommend the forums at permies.com.

I'm so glad you are ready to take matters into your own hands. Nothing would revolutionize this country's corporate control over us more than all the good workers like you pushing away from their desks and saying, "no more." Remember what you've learned: they need you, but you don't need them. Life gets tougher when you wean yourself off corporate America's teat, but freedom is your reward.
Thank you Bellebottoms for all your helpful advice. I will look into Lanto Evans book to help me to reach my goal.
 

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Welcome to STP - we do have some resources here for living off the grid and I do hope you get to being on your own. Another good source(s) are the off grid groups on facebook - best one is "off grid and homestead ladies"

good luck!!!
 

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Welcome to STP.... Wish you the best of luck in your journey....
 

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