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So this thread is for discussing an idea I've had for many years now, that I would like to share with the community and get some input on.

This thread is for discussing an extension of the Squat the Planet website into real life by starting a homebase/headquarters for the StP community in the form of a physical location with full time live-in residents, as well as accommodating a rotating cast of visiting travelers.

The location would take the form of a plot of land that would be turned into a residence while also giving a space for other projects. The residence portion would take the form of what could be best described as an RV park, where residents long term and short term alike could come and go as they please between travels. There would also be more permanent structures in place, such as teepees, tents, yurts, and possibly more advanced alternative building structures like shipping container houses, etc.

Amenities would include shore/house power, potable water, public showers, a travel-specific library, mail boxes, and others.

The space would also be designed to have an open performance area/stage, campfire hangout spots, a bar for special events, and other areas such as gardens and a blacksmith shop. Other ideas are possible based on what the residents want to pursue.

Apologies for the vagueness at this point, but location, monetary and social logistics are all things that will need to be discussed in this thread, and as we work things out, i will update this first post with the latest information that is decided upon; eventually, the goal here is to have an exact outline of the project and what we hope to achieve and why.

At this point though, I just want to get the discussion started so feel free to post your input, concerns, and ideas for how we can make this a reality.

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i would like to say that in terms of location, i personally would like to find a place that isn't too remote and not too difficult for other travelers to get to. in addition, i'd like to be somewhere it isn't impossible to find work, so residents can have jobs if they want to while living there, either to save up for the next leg of travel or finance projects in the space.

unfortunately i have yet to visit the Black Butte Center for Railroad Culture, but i imagine that our space might be a StP version of that?
 
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fuckin awesome if i can, one day, make myself useful on this front I'll get back to you

i feel like nw arkansas may be the spot but all i got is a hunch
yeah, i feel like the midwest would be a good possibility as well. kinda curious about kcmo, but it would need some further investigation.
 
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Good idea. I was thinking of purchasing land somewhere in southern Colorado or New Mexico for a project like this. It's just the funds to do it or pool together with other people and be co-owners? It's a good idea Matt!
sorry, i should have touched on that in the OP (i'll updated it soon), but yeah, the idea would be that the land would be owned under a trust with a board of directors essentially, so no one person owns the land. it would definitely be owned and run collectively.

in terms of getting it paid for, i'm open to ideas, but my main focus might theoretically be a kickstarter of some kind, where we could sell weekend visits/parties at the land to raise money for it. we did this when i created an indigogo campaign for east jesus and it did pretty well.
 

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ive been thinking about moving to Pueblo

do you know this area?
In my opinion Pueblo is awful, not sure what you mean by “move” there but if it means start a new life there with a place and a job then you may regret it but that’s just me

Good idea. I was thinking of purchasing land somewhere in southern Colorado or New Mexico for a project like this. It's just the funds to do it or pool together with other people and be co-owners? It's a good idea Matt!
Yeeeeaaaa southern Colorado has great land for cheap, steer clear of Costilla County though their getting strict on the off grid shit. Pm me if you want I’m tryna blow some money from last season on good land around here soon
 

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I'm all about this idea! Not gonna lie; I'm mostly commenting to give support and to get notifications on this thread as it grows. I'm about to crash for the night, but I'll definitely come back and try to contribute to the brainstorm in any way I can. Good on you though, @Matt Derrick!
 
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Missouri & illinois are cheap & remote but close to major cities in southern Illinois Easter. Missouri. Weather is mild in South Western/ eastern & no building codes in most counties. Owner financing is also a option & a valid foot in the door. Plus marijuana is medical in both States for the hemp enthusiasts.
 
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so just a quick update for people interested...

first off, i've cleaned up this thread deleting posts that were off topic or related to some research of land in austin, texas that ended up being a dead end.

second, i will be traveling through Kansas City, MO (KCMO) around the end of December or early January on my way to New Orleans, so I figured I'd stop by there for a week or so and scope things out. I've heard KCMO has cheap land and a somewhat burgeoning punk community (among other benefits like being on major train lines) so I figure I should check it out while i can and report back here. i've been talking with some other StP members that either live there and others that have been there recently, and it seems like a strong possibility.

third, when i have the extra funds for it, i'm planning on commissioning some artwork from @awkwardshelby to kind of illustrate what this space would look like to give everyone a stronger idea of what i'm going for.

that's it for now, i'll update when there's more to say.
 

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I'm down. We've been wanting to set up a place like that for decades. However, we like WA. Nothing says there can be only one location. The People's Project in SD is similar. The biggest hurdles are purchase price and zoning laws. A bit easier in more rural locations for both. However, having lived in a tiny Town the politics and BS is problematic. Even if you don't live in a town proper, word gets out and you've got Bible Thumpin' God Fearin' rednecks that don't want "one of them hippie communes" around. Since all of the government posts are occupied by their relatives, they will do what they can to block it.
 

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from a branding standpoint 'Social Center' seems loaded

not just naysaying/trolling here - better to build understanding into concept
 

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Not that I have a better alternative; cooperative, collective - etc. they're all emblematic of a certain type of enterprise

perhaps Human Fusion Reactor Test Site? Slabs East/North/Central
 
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from a branding standpoint 'Social Center' seems loaded
Not that I have a better alternative; cooperative, collective - etc. they're all emblematic of a certain type of enterprise
yeah, i'll probably end up changing the title of this thread to 'co-op punk rock rv park' or something similar.
 

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you can always append '& Geriatric Center' for us late-blooming boomer types

how about Inter-generational Relational Recreational...
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Do yourself a favor and check with local laws first. There's a park near me that has a lot of hippie festivals and it's pretty much a commune. They have constant problems with local government trying to shut it down using every excuse in the book. They have been successful so far keeping them off there backs. I would start looking at the place in Tennessee that has been working for years and maybe get some input from them. These types of free living usually get lots of visits from ABC organizations. You will definitely need your own security. I have wished for the money for such a place for 20+ years after visiting a punk house in Baltimore and seeing what they were doing with a community center there. I wish you the best of luck. If you ever figure this out I will definitely help in anyway I can.
 
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Do yourself a favor and check with local laws first. There's a park near me that has a lot of hippie festivals and it's pretty much a commune. They have constant problems with local government trying to shut it down using every excuse in the book. They have been successful so far keeping them off there backs. I would start looking at the place in Tennessee that has been working for years and maybe get some input from them. These types of free living usually get lots of visits from ABC organizations. You will definitely need your own security. I have wished for the money for such a place for 20+ years after visiting a punk house in Baltimore and seeing what they were doing with a community center there. I wish you the best of luck. If you ever figure this out I will definitely help in anyway I can.
Which punk house in Baltimore? I used to live in that city. But yes, local laws and housing associations are on my list to check for any property we would be considering.
 

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Which punk house in Baltimore? I used to live in that city. But yes, local laws and housing associations are on my list to check for any property we would be considering.
Wish I could remember the address.. that community center run by a bunch of punx was the greatest thing I'd ever seen at that point. All I remember was the community center was around the corner from where we were staying and the punx had weekly meetings to discuss what they did and to pony up their own money to keep it running. They had free daycare for working single moms, potluck dinners, library, and help for struggling people in the neighborhood..
 

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