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Hello my faithful squattheplanet friends. I would like to start off this thread claiming to be an agnostic with some serious reservations about organized religion. I would also like to say that I do not mean to offend anyone (scientologists basically) with the stories I am about to tell you. Also...if I turn up dead in the coming weeks/months as a result of alleged suicide, please call the press because I am in average to above average mental health and have never, nor do I expect to, have thoughts of suicide.

So you all know who Beck is, right? Talented, incredibly attractive, dancing machine musician and widely known scientologist (and therefore not perfect, as I had once imagined). Beck has been becoming more and more prominent in the community of scientology, and this happened about a month and a half ago. Here's the abridged version:

Beck's got a videographer. Videographer's got a girlfriend. Beck really likes videographer, and videographer's girlfriend, and wants them to join scientologists around the world in the fight against the daily stresses of life (caused the moment alien souls infested homo sapiens in the Paleolithic age -- no joke, that's what scientologists believe). Beck, along with unnamed scientologist friends, start to try and recruit videographer and videographer's girlfriend, although they do so unsuccessfully. Weeks later, police reports are filed by videographer, stating that Beck and a bunch of scientologists tried to brainwash him and his girlfriend, and that their attempts at recruitment were becoming more than worrisome.
Soon after this, the videographer's girlfriend turns up dead. Alleged suicide. One week after that, videographer turns up dead. The police report stated that he appeared to have "walked into the ocean".

I'm not done. Remember that guy who stole the wedding tape belonging to Tom Cruise (also a well known scientologist) and was trying to sell it for a million dollars? Turned up dead. Alleged suicide.

May I repeat: scientologists do not fuck around. I'm saying nothing more than the reporting I've done on actual police reports. I draw no correlation between these deaths, which were obviously suicide and could have been nothing else, and the community surrounding the Church of Scientology. I do not accuse Beck, Tom Cruise, nor any other religious *ahem* follower of the Church of Scientology of any behavior that can be called into question. I would never go so far as to call these actions unsavory or even criminal. I love Scientology. It has changed my life.
(My doppleganger wrote that, just before I killed her)
 

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i really view scientology as almost a big a threat to society as christianity. the reason for this is that they base their religion mostly in money (it's why they call it the credit card religion) and they do a lot of shady shit, and have a lot of people purposely placed in important areas of the government (for example, key positions of the IRS).

also, they do really fucked up stuff to their kids, especially if they refuse to believe in scientology. like put their kids in detention camps in bumfuck nowhere nevada for years. i know all this because i used to live with two girls whose parents were somewhat high up on the scientology scale, and it happened to them.

also, if scientology decides it REALLY doesn't like you, they'll have you "declared", which means that no one in scientology can talk to or associate with you, ever. if they do, they'll get "declared" and so on. there's no exception for parents and kids either so if my friends got declared (which almost happened once) they would no longer be allowed to talk to or see their parents.

it's a long story, but ive had my own run-ins with scientologists, and they're the most big brother is watching you religion ive ever encountered. like i said, it's a long story, but basically, they dropped off a letter "of formal complaint" at my house, with a long list of accusations, including "nattering" (the scientology word for talking shit on scientology) listing all of our names and other personal information. this is the first time that using a fake name had really paid off for me, cause they listed my name as "matt (last name unknown)"

MWAHAHAHAHA....

but yeah, FUCK SCIENTOLOGY. FUCK ALL OPPRESSIVE RELIGIONS.
 
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I had no idea that they were so freemasonesque times 10. this is totally scary. people getting killed over this shit? ridiculous.
 

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..........Look into jack parsons(nasa dude) and Hubbard........they tried to bring about the anti christ but then hubbard scammed jack.............I sound crazy haha but look it up. :shock:
 
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..........Look into jack parsons(nasa dude) and Hubbard........they tried to bring about the anti christ but then hubbard scammed jack.............I sound crazy haha but look it up. :shock:

Dude....really? I can't fucking stand religions like this one, and to think it was all dreamed up by some freak sci-fi author one day when he realized he could scam about 100 million people at least by creating a false icon.

What really sucks about the whole religion thing is the fact that there is something really beautiful about spirituality, and not about religion. I don't know what I believe, but I know that relying on the existence of God or promise of Heaven stunts one's life to the point of boredom. I know also that if we all just took a look around at each other once in a while, we would see that all we ever need is right in front of and around us. And if we cared enough to see the ancient wisdom that remains with nature, we wouldn't need to create a God or gods to explain how everything is or came to be. All that matters is that it's here now.

And to justify spending MONEY to help support any kind of prolonging of the worship of false icons is ridiculous. Which makes killing over it three steps beyond ridiculous, on the rocks, with a twist and finished with some fresh herbs and a psycho. Pardon me, I just got off work serving yuppies.
 

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Grace said:
Exile said:
..........Look into jack parsons(nasa dude) and Hubbard........they tried to bring about the anti christ but then hubbard scammed jack.............I sound crazy haha but look it up. :shock:

Dude....really? I can't fucking stand religions like this one, and to think it was all dreamed up by some freak sci-fi author one day when he realized he could scam about 100 million people at least by creating a false icon.

What really sucks about the whole religion thing is the fact that there is something really beautiful about spirituality, and not about religion. I don't know what I believe, but I know that relying on the existence of God or promise of Heaven stunts one's life to the point of boredom. I know also that if we all just took a look around at each other once in a while, we would see that all we ever need is right in front of and around us. And if we cared enough to see the ancient wisdom that remains with nature, we wouldn't need to create a God or gods to explain how everything is or came to be. All that matters is that it's here now.

And to justify spending MONEY to help support any kind of prolonging of the worship of false icons is ridiculous. Which makes killing over it three steps beyond ridiculous, on the rocks, with a twist and finished with some fresh herbs and a psycho. Pardon me, I just got off work serving yuppies.

Scientology is quite a wacked out system.

Christianity on the other hand is really beautiful. Personally though I feel we get a bad rap because of evangelicals. My vision of the church is that of the early church in rome who had to do mass in the catacombs where they burried their dead in secret. As a catholic we deny the modern and follow the oldest traditions. Same with our lost brothers the orthodox 8) ......anyways even if you hate religion all together I think you can appreciate the teachings of jesus. Im sure really everyone can.
 
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But that's the difference between spirituality and religion in the first place. Of course we can appreciate the teachings of Jesus. Some people don't even believe he existed, arguing that the name "Jesus" simply means "healer" and as a result, his is just another story that was contrived in the bible, and not necessarily an actual anthology of life.

The problem is that most people cannot accept "teachings" without the rules that come along with it and, as a result, the teachings themselves are lost. Furthermore, the powers that be notice the possibility of commodification, but only with organization and conformity. That's why something like Christian Anarchy is so appealing to someone like me, or one who is disillusioned with the dangers of overarching power.

Why, for instance, can we all not quote the Tao, or teachings of the Buddha, or Bodhisatwas that carry so much knowledge of nature and the world, and ways to live a peaceful, beautiful, nonviolent life. So much blood is spilled over Western Religions, but I can't think of one war fought over an Eastern thought or philosophy. Rather, a gentle nudge in the other direction with thorough acceptance of the origin.
 

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Grace said:
But that's the difference between spirituality and religion in the first place. Of course we can appreciate the teachings of Jesus. Some people don't even believe he existed, arguing that the name "Jesus" simply means "healer" and as a result, his is just another story that was contrived in the bible, and not necessarily an actual anthology of life.

The problem is that most people cannot accept "teachings" without the rules that come along with it and, as a result, the teachings themselves are lost. Furthermore, the powers that be notice the possibility of commodification, but only with organization and conformity. That's why something like Christian Anarchy is so appealing to someone like me, or one who is disillusioned with the dangers of overarching power.

Why, for instance, can we all not quote the Tao, or teachings of the Buddha, or Bodhisatwas that carry so much knowledge of nature and the world, and ways to live a peaceful, beautiful, nonviolent life. So much blood is spilled over Western Religions, but I can't think of one war fought over an Eastern thought or philosophy. Rather, a gentle nudge in the other direction with thorough acceptance of the origin.

Well religion is more like the organized set of prayers,traditionsm, and other set of things you believe in. Even the early christian anarchist dorothy day was part of a church. The thing with people who dont believe jesus existed havnt actually looked at the history. The biggest historians the pagan ones even mention him. Same with pagan census. He definetly existed and his true name was yeshua not jesus (its more a translated form).

Every teaching comes with free will. You can choose to do so or not to. If you truly believe in hell well then its not so much an issue. In christian anarchism you learn to make a distinct difference from the state and the church(check link at bottom).
Peter Maurin, Amman Hennacy,Dorothy Day, Thomas Merton, Léonce Crenier , Philip Berrigan,Ivan Illich, Daniel Berrigan, Thomas J. Hagerty John Seymour, and E.F. Schumacher all were anarchist as well as catholic.

Now with western religions they all come from the same place. They also claim their god is supreme that is why those wars were raged back in the day. Now if you look at say the daily messages from the vatican tolerance is generally preached. Like if you are to look at them on another religions holy day it talks about wishing them well and tolerance for eachother. Though with islam their is tolerance but their is also that distrust of infidel kind of thing. All of the western religions generally preach tolerance and peace. In fact..... statistically atheist leaders throughout history have caused the most deaths in history. Remember governments are the ones who wage war.

Moa chinese communist leader kill tally =70 million DEAD(atheist)
Stalin communist kill tally= 30 to 60 million DEAD(atheist)
Polpot communist kill tally= 3 to 4 million dead(atheist)
Lenin kill tally= 10 million dead(atheist)
Trotsky communist butcher= millions dead(atheist)
Kim Jong millions dead(atheist)
Hitler 30 million DEAD(atheist)

Atheist arnt bloodthirsty the point of showing these statistics is to show that christians arnt as blood thirsty as atheist make them seem.






http://www.jesusradicals.com/essays/the ... chism.html
 

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Hitler was by no means an atheist, had actually had a lot of support from the catholic church, read Hitler's Pope, and he was obsessed with the Judeo-Christian religion and the occult.

Mega post...........

Google the thule society. :?

Exorcism of hitler.
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brukerdisk ... 08.217.185
http://www.cathnews.com/news/608/176.php

Persecution of the church:
http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=32525
http://www.churchinhistory.org/pages/le ... rscath.htm
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pol/378019198.html
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articl ... h0033.html
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pol/378020782.html
http://www.catholicleague.org/catalyst/ ... /essay.htm
http://www.fatherkolbe.com/



On Pius XI and the nazis:

Mit brennender Sorge (German for "With deep anxiety," literally; "With burning concern.") is an encyclical of Pope Pius XI, published on March 10, 1937 (but bearing a date of Passion Sunday, March 14). The encyclical dealt with the condition of the Roman Catholic Church in Nazi Germany, and criticized Nazism. It is one of the few papal encyclicals in history not written in Latin. The encyclical was addressed to German bishops and was read in all parish churches of Germany. Pope Pius XI credited its creation and writing to the Cardinal Secretary of State, Eugenio Cardinal Pacelli, who later became Pope Pius XII. There was no pre-announcement of the encyclical, and its distribution was kept secret in an attempt to ensure the unhindered public reading of its contents in all the Catholic Churches of Germany.

Some passages stated:

"Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community—however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things—whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds"
"This God, this Sovereign Master, has issued commandments whose value is independent of time and space, country and race. As God's sun shines on every human face so His law knows neither privilege nor exception. Rulers and subjects, crowned and uncrowned, rich and poor are equally subject to His word. From the fullness of the Creators' right there naturally arises the fullness of His right to be obeyed by individuals and communities, whoever they are. This obedience permeates all branches of activity in which moral values claim harmony with the law of God, and pervades all integration of the ever-changing laws of man into the immutable laws of God." "None but superficial minds could stumble into concepts of a national God, of a national religion; or attempt to lock within the frontiers of a single people, within the narrow limits of a single race, God, the Creator of the universe, King and Legislator of all nations before whose immensity they are "as a drop of a bucket" (Isaiah xl, 15). "

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mische ... nazis.html
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mische ... nazis.html
http://www.catholicculture.org/library/ ... ecNum=1438
http://www.catholicculture.org/library/ ... ecNum=1439
http://www.pius-xii.com/
http://net2.netacc.net/~mafg/nazi02.htm
http://www.catholicleague.org/pius/framemain.htm
http://www.markriebling.com/nazipope.html
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http://catholiceducation.org/articles/h ... h0004.html
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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... 8202/print
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Our new pope and the nazis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life ... nedict_XVI
http://bc.edu/research/cjl/metaelements ... _nazis.htm
 
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Fastest way to kill a thread:

Encourage readers to click on about 50 individual links to do research on something they only partially care about, and has nothing to do with the original subject.
 

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Grace said:
Fastest way to kill a thread:

Encourage readers to click on about 50 individual links to do research on something they only partially care about, and has nothing to do with the original subject.
Im sorry im just prone to defending my self with a mass of evidence when an arguement ensues.....especially with misconceptions.

Either way catholic church =/= Nazis
 
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I don't like scientology, they are fuckin creepy, creepy in that mormon kinda way but with more intensity. I could give a shit about christianity "in all its forms" because the basic ideal nomatter how you wanna put it is "you are nothing he is everything" fuck that. ever noticed scientologists are all verry wide eyed? I do however like the idea that an alien race inhabited the human brain and walla theres us. That would explane some inner struggle lol. Personaly I believe were all our own gods and there are no outside forces, regarldess of how many candles you burn or how many pretty rocks you have. because nothing can make you do anything EVER! exept YOU! therefor even if there was anything it would be useless to worship something that can't make anything happen in the first place. I think everyone needs to stop being so self important that they have to think imaginary things care about them when noone else does. And get some real self importance.
 
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That is pretty suprising that beck is a scientologist. lol I like how saying that is starting to sound like, wow who would have thought he was a cerial killer. He dosen't look like a scientologist. And i cant imagine how someone who once said something go great like
"In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey,
butane in my veins so I'm out to get the junkie
with the plastic eyeballs, spraypaint the vegetables,
dog food stalls with the beefcake pantyhose"
" would agree that he is of an alien race that inhabited the human mind. lol.
I would have pegged beck for something more hippyish. Ofcorse I diddnt like anything he did after his first album anyway.
 
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Adversaryan said:
I would have pegged beck for something more hippyish. Ofcorse I diddnt like anything he did after his first album anyway.

WHAT?!?! Are you nuts? The man is a musical genuis, and all of his albums are wonderful. How could you not like Guero? And how could you think Midnite Vultures is anything less than the sexiest collaboration of music ever? Dude. I have to go do some stress detox from reading that.
 
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Recently I was reading a book on cults in modern america recently, and the part on Scientologists (A whopping three chapters) had some frightening things. I guess a lot of employers for big businesses and such will send their employees to workshops to boost employee moral, and Scientologists own a bunch of these workshop/camp/resort things and use them as a means of conversion.
 

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