Personal rules, morals, whatever ya call it on the road (1 Viewer)

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Not sure how to start this off so I'm just gonna jump straight into it.

1.) I always work for my money, I don't spange, panhandle, none of that. I always work for my money somehow. I can't stand panhandling personally. It makes me sick to my stomach to do it. I'm a perfectly capable of making my own money.
2.) I use money as little as possible, or as little as I can in a increasingly modern world. Much of my food is dumpstered, and since I spend a very large amount of my time in the wilderness, a good deal of my food is from there as well, such as a pocket fishing kit, my slingshot, and wild edibles etc. I also work-trade for food when i can. If i have to buy food I spend money on bagged rice, beans, and lentils, bread and peanut butter etc at dollar tree. Fresh fruits and veggies are also cheap at grocery stores.
3.) I chose this lifestyle. I'm humble with everything I do. I may not panhandle, but if someone kindly offers me money, I take it with a humble heart and gratitude if I really need it, and if i have my own money, i'll kindly refuse their offer, at which point they look at me as though I've got a screw loose lol. Somebody asks me to leave for sleeping somewhere such as behind a business or apartment archway or something similar i do so even if it makes me angry. I understand why they do it. The list goes on and on
4.) Depend on the machine less. I eat from the wild as much as I can, and when i don't I dumpster my food, which will be thrown in a landfill anyway and not be put to good use. I use a homemade hobo stove so that i don't need to buy fuel for a modern stove. I use alternative medicine, and also make my own clothes when i can(maybe ill make a post about it sometime). Anything i can diy myself i make.
5.) My dog comes first. His food water and other needs. Nuff said he depends on me for everything.
6.)I like to avoid conflict, and as a result keep my temper in check when shots are being fired, and am kind to everyone I meet, if someone is being negative I remove myself from the situation
7.) Things that hold me back I leave behind. Relationships are a big no no, extra unnecessary gear. You get the idea.
8.)Live in a way that makes me happy and leaves me with a sense of fulfillment and love for who I am as a person.
9.) Treat the earth with the respect it deserves. No littering, killing a animal I wont eat, or chopping down trees for fun that kind of shit.
10.)Accepting things and moving on. Took me a while for this one. Everything feels so much better when you can just live and let go of things mentally.

Just felt like sharing, if you wanna share yours feel free, kinda why i made this thread, wanna see how everybody else thinks. Not looking for harsh negative criticism on the way I rule myself and live my life. Look forward to seeing you guys post. Hope this made sense, never thought i was much good at conveying my thoughts in writing.
 
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I think this is awesome and I wish when I first went traveling I’dve thought about how this kind of ‘moral compass’ can be a more essential tool than a leatherman
 

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EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS WRONG!!!! GET A JOB HIPPY!!!

(J/k, just wanted to sound like a morally superior housie)

Ya, this is a great idea for a post. I've seen other similar threads before, but cant remember them.

For me, this thread:

https://squattheplanet.com/threads/hobo-history-ethical-code.5483/

Explains very closely to how I choose to live my life.

I can relate to your not wanting to panhandle. I do busk (guitar/vocals) though. I think that is a perfectly acceptable way of making a living.

I wish I could get more and more away from needing money. The first step would be to quit drinking.

The no relationships thing I can also relate to, however I believe that is now more destructive for me than helpful. I need to learn how to get along with people again.

I take my morals and manners VERY seriosuly. Expecially while traveling. There have been multiple instances where my morality and manners have benefitted my travels, gotten me rides, provisions, money, friendships.

I wish more people would adopt a code such as these (with their own provisions), it would benefit our community greatly.
 
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Busking is 100% NOT spanging!

Afa your second to last paragraph, you may have rediscovered the categorical imperative
 

noothgrush

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Just treat everyone with respect and leave your campsite like you were never their. That's really it for me. I'm a simple kinda man.
 

george990

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And dont pee/poop in the rivers!

I met a dude in Oregon last year and for some reason he asked me what my camp rules are... I said as follows...

CAMP RULES-
1-Never tell anyone where your camp is
2-Never walk into someone else's camp after dark
3-Keep camp clean and free of garbage
4-Never poop in or near camp

Anyways he was like "Why would you poop in camp when theres a river right there"

Dude! Dig a fuckin hole. Dont be like that guy. Theres a poor smuck downstream drinking that water and washing his face in it.
 
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Oddy

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Busking is 100% NOT spanging!

Afa your second to last paragraph, you may have rediscovered the categorical imperative
You're so right, busking isn't the same as spanging at all! It's a performance and a skill. I dislike spanging too, especially when kids tell one person how cool it is to live rough and how they chose it, so they look interesting and get money, then two minutes later when an old lady comes by they turn on the "please Mrs, life is so hard on the streets. Feel sorry for me." bit. It's so manipulative and false.
 
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Busking is 100% NOT spanging!

Afa your second to last paragraph, you may have rediscovered the categorical imperative
Never said I didn't like busking. I agree that busking is a form of work hell i do it sometimes even though i'm real shitty with the harmonica just wish i was more musical lol.
 
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EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS WRONG!!!! GET A JOB HIPPY!!!

(J/k, just wanted to sound like a morally superior housie)

Ya, this is a great idea for a post. I've seen other similar threads before, but cant remember them.

For me, this thread:

https://squattheplanet.com/threads/hobo-history-ethical-code.5483/

Explains very closely to how I choose to live my life.

I can relate to your not wanting to panhandle. I do busk (guitar/vocals) though. I think that is a perfectly acceptable way of making a living.

I wish I could get more and more away from needing money. The first step would be to quit drinking.

The no relationships thing I can also relate to, however I believe that is now more destructive for me than helpful. I need to learn how to get along with people again.

I take my morals and manners VERY seriosuly. Expecially while traveling. There have been multiple instances where my morality and manners have benefitted my travels, gotten me rides, provisions, money, friendships.

I wish more people would adopt a code such as these (with their own provisions), it would benefit our community greatly.
Yeah my morals I adhere to pretty strictly. And I feel you on drinking its hard to not fall victim to the bottle. I was also able to quit cigs to which helped alot. And as for relationships nowadays I just seem to prefer my own company. I appreciate the response :)
 
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You're so right, busking isn't the same as spanging at all! It's a performance and a skill. I dislike spanging too, especially when kids tell one person how cool it is to live rough and how they chose it, so they look interesting and get money, then two minutes later when an old lady comes by they turn on the "please Mrs, life is so hard on the streets. Feel sorry for me." bit. It's so manipulative and false.
again dont mind busking i do sometimes even though im shit at it lol. And i hate that feel sorry for me shit when you chose this life it makes me fucking sick I agree its manipulative as hell. They say fuck the system yet you depend on people in the system to give you money that they worked their asses off for that you have no right to. I'd rather get ebt than spange. Ignore my little rant lol just sayin I agree with you i just feel strongly on it.
 

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Right now I'm housed since my family needs help and I'm working. So not traveling atm (but I hope to hit the road again soon). My thoughts after 3 years on the road:

1.) I always work for my money, I don't spange, panhandle, none of that. I always work for my money somehow. I can't stand panhandling personally. It makes me sick to my stomach to do it. I'm a perfectly capable of making my own money.

Well, I dont mind if someone spange. It's okay for me. I very rarely did it, cause in most of the places I stayed (UK) begging is illegal and I didn't want to run into trouble, especially as a foreigner. But I never worked. At first I just sat somewhere, minding my own business and eventually someone gave me some change. Not asking, no sign, no hat or cup outside.

Then luckily a friend gave me a harmonica and I learned to play it. So I could make some money legally. I am not really good, I can't really play popular songs, just some tunes I came up with. But aparently it is good enough I got away with it, police considered it as busking and not "begging with an instrument".

I never needed much. I always made "money on demand". I like to drink, I like to smoke (tobacco). Everything else is for free anyway. So sometimes I went somewhere, played and as soon as I got 1 or 2 pounds, I quit ... got a cider and chilled somewhere.

Also i always told people the truth. When someone asked me if I'm homeless, my answer was "no". Told them I'm travelling, from Germany ... obviously low budget. Visiting friends and enjoying my time here in {city}.

I would never fly a sign like "homeless and hungry need help".

2.) I use money as little as possible, or as little as I can in a increasingly modern world. Much of my food is dumpstered, and since I spend a very large amount of my time in the wilderness, a good deal of my food is from there as well, such as a pocket fishing kit, my slingshot, and wild edibles etc. I also work-trade for food when i can. If i have to buy food I spend money on bagged rice, beans, and lentils, bread and peanut butter etc at dollar tree. Fresh fruits and veggies are also cheap at grocery stores.

As said above, I (almost) only used money for my alc and cig habit. Sometimes not even the latter, picking up cig buts is for free. I took the tobacco out and re-rolled it.

Dumpster diving is a cool thing, I like it. Also asking for leftover food at takeaways is a good way to feed yourself. I mean it's almost the same, but you get it (if you get it) before it goes into the dumpster.

When it comes to the wilderness ... was never travelling there. i like cities. Perhaps cause I spend most of my (normal lifestyle) life on the countryside. Cities like London are my "djungle".

3.) I chose this lifestyle. I'm humble with everything I do. I may not panhandle, but if someone kindly offers me money, I take it with a humble heart and gratitude if I really need it, and if i have my own money, i'll kindly refuse their offer, at which point they look at me as though I've got a screw loose lol. Somebody asks me to leave for sleeping somewhere such as behind a business or apartment archway or something similar i do so even if it makes me angry. I understand why they do it. The list goes on and on

I chose that lifestyle as well and yeah, being humble with everything you do is the way to do it. I totally agree.

One disagreement, though. I would never refuse a donation anymore, may it be food, clothing, money or whatever. Reason is I don't want to embarrass a nice person who is so generous. I did it a few times before as I was still backpacking only and had money. In my opinion what you describe as "at which point they look at me as though I've got a screw loose" is more embarrassment on their side. If I didn't need it, I never wasted it, though. Gave it to someone else who was thankful for it.

So, I would suggest, next time someone offers you money and you don't need it ... take it and give it to someone else who is in need in your opinion.

Only exception is when the person who offered me money was obviously poor or even homeless him/herself. Then I declined as well.

4.) Depend on the machine less. I eat from the wild as much as I can, and when i don't I dumpster my food, which will be thrown in a landfill anyway and not be put to good use. I use a homemade hobo stove so that i don't need to buy fuel for a modern stove. I use alternative medicine, and also make my own clothes when i can(maybe ill make a post about it sometime). Anything i can diy myself i make.

Can't say anything about wilderness since I always stayed in cities.

Would like to hear about your DIY clothes though. When it comes to clothes ... I always liked it when I found something here or there. In the trash, on the streets or whereever. Often people came to me and donated something and I always took it (see above for the reason) but only a few times I really used that, more often then not I gave it to someone else. I don't want to carry lots of clothes, I'm fine with just what I'm wearing and I don't mind to be raggedy, on the contrary lol.

5.) My dog comes first. His food water and other needs. Nuff said he depends on me for everything.

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6.)I like to avoid conflict, and as a result keep my temper in check when shots are being fired, and am kind to everyone I meet, if someone is being negative I remove myself from the situation

I'm absolutely the same. I like to avoid conflicts as well.

Don't get me wrong, if a friend runs into trouble, I would not run away. But if that happens I always try to de-escalate.

If I'm on my own, I do the same. Remove myself from the situation. No need for drama.

Many people let provoke themself by people they don't even know. Like if someone calls you scum and "get a fuckin job" or alike. And then they flip out.

Me ... I don't even have to brace myself. I don't care. If someone who does not know me treats me like that ... they have disqualified themselfes. No need to think about any further.

7.) Things that hold me back I leave behind. Relationships are a big no no, extra unnecessary gear. You get the idea.

Never was in a relationship while travelling, so can't say anything about it. But I met quite a few people who got very good friends, like family. And yeah I fell in love once, but the feelings were not mutual. That's life.

8.)Live in a way that makes me happy and leaves me with a sense of fulfillment and love for who I am as a person.

Well, yes, basically.

9.) Treat the earth with the respect it deserves. No littering, killing a animal I wont eat, or chopping down trees for fun that kind of shit.

Yes.

10.)Accepting things and moving on. Took me a while for this one. Everything feels so much better when you can just live and let go of things mentally.

Yes, absolutely.

:)
 

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You're so right, busking isn't the same as spanging at all!
Well, yes. But there is a wide range. There are many people I know who are really talented, playing guitar, banjo, saxophone, singing ... me on the other hand I play some tunes on the harmonica which is not sooo virtuous. But anyway, yeah it's at least I do something, not just asking for spare change.

I dislike spanging too, especially when kids tell one person how cool it is to live rough and how they chose it, so they look interesting and get money, then two minutes later when an old lady comes by they turn on the "please Mrs, life is so hard on the streets. Feel sorry for me." bit. It's so manipulative and false.
Definitely. I always told people what I do, why I do it ... just the truth.

When someone approached me asking "how are you?" (obviously about to give me some money) I always answered "hi I'm fine, how are you?" ... and if they asked me if I'm homeless I told them no, I'm travelling, enjoying myself here in England, seeing friends ... just the truth.

I hate it when people make up sob stories.
 

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Off Topic: nice seeing just another person from Europe and my favourite country here on StP. :)

Seriously, stuck here in Germany I miss England big time.
Haha, yeah I feel that. Are you kidding though, stuck in Germany sounds pretty good to me!
 

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