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So my personal thoughts on people who don't like politics or don't like getting involved in thier communities is they are highly privileged, there are people dying every day in the Capitalist state we live in due to dying in the cold or dying due to the lack of food. In this world, it's not About politics it's about life and death. If no one stood up to police brutality then the police would keep killing and abusing, if no one stood up for the earth, the fracking would keep happening. I'm only 19 but politics are very important in my life and play a huge role. I think if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

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For most "apolitical" people I meet, I think that's true. However, I think that this kind of attitude can effect other groups as well. If you're too busy trying to survive capitalism to learn about or pay attention to politics, or even certain anarchists who define being apolitical as just not participating in the state.

Point being, yeah, a lot of these people are shitty dudebros you probably don't have any affinity with, but many of them are people you can work with or at least count on when you're building community and resistance.
 

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A lot of people don't like the political system, even if they don't intellectually participate, I'm sure most people would love to keep and distribute all of the fruits of their labor as they see fit. Or better yet, not fund the endless wars and the supplying of radical groups with murder their universal tool to effect change.
Blah blah blah blah
Your almost wasting your breath if you're not talking about solutions.
What identity trap do you fall into anyhow? You talk alot about anarchism, but there's also a communist flag in the background of your photo.
 
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For most "apolitical" people I meet, I think that's true. However, I think that this kind of attitude can effect other groups as well. If you're too busy trying to survive capitalism to learn about or pay attention to politics, or even certain anarchists who define being apolitical as just not participating in the state.

Point being, yeah, a lot of these people are shitty dudebros you probably don't have any affinity with, but many of them are people you can work with or at least count on when you're building community and resistance.
I don't mean voting and left and right wing I mean that they don't particularly participate in the active resistance against the system that is killing innocent people each day, I think until we are ready to have revolution we should separate ourselves from society and basically get ourselves ready for the revolution through squatting or something in that context.
 
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A lot of people don't like the political system, even if they don't intellectually participate, I'm sure most people would love to keep and distribute all of the fruits of their labor as they see fit. Or better yet, not fund the endless wars and the supplying of radical groups with murder their universal tool to effect change.
Blah blah blah blah
Your almost wasting your breath if you're not talking about solutions.
What identity trap do you fall into anyhow? You talk alot about anarchism, but there's also a communist flag in the background of your photo.
I'm Anarcho communist. I believe that we should unite as far leftists to fight against Fascism and the system. I believe that after revolution, we should use non authoritarian communism temporarily to teach the people and basically yse communism as a gateway to Anarchism. Because if we start off with a Anarchist world it will fail miserably.

PS, that pic is old as hell. That's when I was only into communism, just too lazy to take another picture and post it.
 

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To quote a popular thread on STP: YOU HAVE NO GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BE A BUM!! In many many countries on this planet the transient life is near impossible. Refusing to work can get you imprisoned or killed all over the world. No matter how low you are in American society, you still have it better than literally millions and millions of people.

Capitalism is far from perfect and I believe it has no place in pursuit of a Utopian society but Communism is not the answer. Commies have killed over 80,000,000 more people than the National Socialists did, you might excuse that fact because the Commies weren't racist, but that shit doesn't fly with people who don't suffer from cognitive dissonance.
 
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To quote a popular thread on STP: YOU HAVE NO GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BE A BUM!! In many many countries on this planet the transient life is near impossible. Refusing to work can get you imprisoned or killed all over the world. No matter how low you are in American society, you still have it better than literally millions and millions of people.

Capitalism is far from perfect and I believe it has no place in pursuit of a Utopian society but Communism is not the answer. Commies have killed over 80,000,000 more people than the National Socialists did, you might excuse that fact because the Commies weren't racist, but that shit doesn't fly with people who don't suffer from cognitive dissonance.
Never said I was a communist. I'm anarcho communist, meaning i believe in non authoritarian communism short term to use as a gateway to Anarchism. Communism hasn't killed as many people as capitalism has because very few "communist" countries exist anymore. You have north Korea but they were again fake communism. I've already stated ny views in tankies and authoritarian communists. I'm not defending any tankie, authoritarian communist, dictatorship, whatever it may be. If Marxists are willing to find alongside with Anarchists then let it be.

As for the working thing, of all the sites to find that trash on it wouldn't have believed it would have came from stp. There is a difference between working and working in society. Whoever made that post has no idea what they are talking about clearly, sounds alot like bootlicking to me. I love to work, I love to be busy. Growing food, building things, doing art, cleaning, etc is work that is needed. In today's society when you work, your put down and treated like dog shit.
 

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Yet you're too lazy to take a new picture of yourself without a flag that supposedly does not represent your beliefs? How convenient as well to just say that any country that doesn't give Communism a good name is "fake Communism" - whatever the hell that means.

Who's boot was the author of that quote supposedly licking anyway? That was a thread about people like you who think that world owes you something just because you're alive and who end up giving travelers a bad name. You've got some growing up to do and that's okay. Just don't be so damn arrogant and have some respect for the people on here who aren't completely thrilled to have some random teenager lecturing them about how the world works.
 
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Yet you're too lazy to take a new picture of yourself without a flag that supposedly does not represent your beliefs? How convenient as well to just say that any country that doesn't give Communism a good name is "fake Communism" - whatever the hell that means.

Who's boot was the author of that quote supposedly licking anyway? That was a thread about people like you who think that world owes you something just because you're alive and who end up giving travelers a bad name. You've got some growing up to do and that's okay. Just don't be so damn arrogant and have some respect for the people on here who aren't completely thrilled to have some random teenager lecturing them about how the world works.
Lol this whole site is about supposedly as you say people who think the world owes them, your growing your own food for fucks sake. You sound like some uneducated yuppie twat who is one phone call away to a free room in daddy's house. Yoir White privilege is showing btw. Of course the world owes us, there's enough resources to feed and house everyone on this entire planet but instead we use paper and metal to determine who gets what. Your attitude is extremely albiest and very problematic.
 
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Another thing what dies me not wanting to change my picture have to do with my ideology? That's a pretty pathetic come back
 

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Skit:
Well not talking about the world won't fix it either.
And he's right about the 20th century communist, although I don't know about the exact figure.

But, its stupid to go down that road because you'll miss the point, same with the death toll on the capitalists. Even though I'm in a bout of intellectual war between capitalism vs communism, it's evident that capitalism definitely raised the standard of living way more than any other system. That isn't to say though, that I believe it's sustainable. I really hate the left/right paradigm, because whichever side, you or someone you know subscribes to, it invariably comes with preconceptions about whomever's stance or ideas.
Ajax:
Fascism was a term coined and implemented first by the so called "left." A man named Giovanni gentile
What I really think the lesson is, is that you cannot choose to go against natural law and get away with it. I believe all authoritarianism is wrong.
I myself am considering a communal anarchist stance, but am always prepared to admit that I am wrong, if that's the case
 
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Skit:
Well not talking about the world won't fix it either.
And he's right about the 20th century communist, although I don't know about the exact figure.

But, its stupid to go down that road because you'll miss the point, same with the death toll on the capitalists. Even though I'm in a bout of intellectual war between capitalism vs communism, it's evident that capitalism definitely raised the standard of living way more than any other system. That isn't to say though, that I believe it's sustainable. I really hate the left/right paradigm, because whichever side, you or someone you know subscribes to, it invariably comes with preconceptions about whomever's stance or ideas.
Ajax:
Fascism was a term coined and implemented first by the so called "left." A man named Giovanni gentile
What I really think the lesson is, is that you cannot choose to go against natural law and get away with it. I believe all authoritarianism is wrong.
I myself am considering a communal anarchist stance, but am always prepared to admit that I am wrong, if that's the case
I haven't had a problem with you yet, you respectfully disagree with me when what I say doesn't take to you. So far, I disagree with you about right vs left. Many people think Anarchism isn't left but it is..it's far left. Anyone who hates bigotry and wants to actually do something about it besides sitting around in a squat complaining is far left or has far left leaning ideologies. Another thing im confused about is activism and squatting goes hand in hand. I've never met a squatter, traveler that didn't have left leaning ideologies like abolishment of capitalism or something in that nature. Many squatters I've ran into are active political activists that are squatting for political reasons wether it be a rent strike or to ditch a capitalist system. I don't understand where the guys like skit come from.
 
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Anarcho communism is different for each person you ask. For me, I call myself an Anarcho communist because I believe in some Communist (marxist) beliefs like standing up for the working class, the abolishment of capitalism, and the end of imperalism. I also believe in a Anarchist beliefs as well like no borders, no nations, no Patriotism, no government, and no bigotry. Another reason is because I advocate for left unity as long as the Communists are anti authoritarian and anti dictatorship. I can't stand Stalinists or tankies.
 

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A book written by peter kropotkin called " mutual aid" might be a great read for you. I haven't read it myself but it's next on my list
 
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I've read that book. Peter kropotkin is one of my favorite political authors and political philosophers.
 

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"Anarcho-communism" is a unicorn..

Individuals joining together and agreeing on a social contract that has values associated with communal living is still a voluntary agreement.

^^ The ability of one to enter or leave contractual agreements implies that the individual has rights.

You really can't have communism without force or power structures in play.
 

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I am a capitalist through and through.
All individuals should be free to make decisions and enter contracts as they see fit. That includes banding together and forming a type of government if they please.

Obviously, in reality people can choose be really awful individuals or associations, and abuse all sorts of things, but that's really what freedom is; The ability/opportunity to make a choice. Whether "good" or "bad".

Communism doesn't have room for nonsense like individual rights or freedom.
 

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Captain Cassius:
Every thing you said is/was true. But I don't think I agree with you that communism absolutely needs force and that individual rights can't exist simultaneously within it.
Obviously it doesn't work with some humans being above others, the 20th century is evident of that.
What does communism mean to you? Just so we're clear
And would you be able to imagine voluntary communism, without majority rule and coercion?
 

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"Anarcho-communism" is a unicorn..

Individuals joining together and agreeing on a social contract that has values associated with communal living is still a voluntary agreement.

^^ The ability of one to enter or leave contractual agreements implies that the individual has rights.

You really can't have communism without force or power structures in play.

I am a capitalist through and through.
All individuals should be free to make decisions and enter contracts as they see fit. That includes banding together and forming a type of government if they please.

Obviously, in reality people can choose be really awful individuals or associations, and abuse all sorts of things, but that's really what freedom is; The ability/opportunity to make a choice. Whether "good" or "bad".

Communism doesn't have room for nonsense like individual rights or freedom.

oh hey look, a capitalist who doesn't think capitalism/THE ECONOMIC DOMINATION OF MOST OF HUMANITY is a power structure or violence LOL
 

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