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Matt Derrick

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Hey folks, I'm testing a new system where people can suggest ideas and solutions for questions people have about how StP should work. This new section is tentatively being called 'punk parliment' and it uses a addon for our forum software that lets people upvote and downvote suggestions for StP. The most upvoted suggestions will be implemented and less good suggestions will be filtered to the bottom.

I've removed the upvote/downvote addon as it didn't really make sense for what we were trying to use it for and i think the interface confused a lot of folks.

So, with that out of the way, here's the first topic for your input:

I'm planning a restructuring of the message board sections as outlined below:

  • Around the Campfire
    • Introductions (no changes)
    • Travel Stories (no changes)
    • Punk Parliament (new section)
  • Finding Others (Crust List)
    • Ride Board Forum --> possibly merge with road dogs?
    • Road Dogs & Meet Up (if above, rename to Rides & Road Dogs?)
    • Crust Surfing Forum (no changes)
    • Missed Connections (no changes)
    • Obituaries (no changes)
    • Untrustworthy and Shady People (no changes)
  • Where to?
    • Destinations by Region (no changes)
      • North America
        • Canada
        • United States
        • Mexico
      • Central America
      • South America
      • Europe
      • Asia
      • Africa
      • Oceania
    • Events / Gatherings / Festivals (no changes)
    • Urban Exploration (no changes)
    • StP Dirty Scouts Jamboree --> moved from Around the Campfire to here
      • 2018 Jamboree
      • 2017 Jamboree
      • 2016 Jamboree
      • 2015 Jamboree
      • StP Fest III (2009)
  • Getting There (no changes)
    • Van Dwelling
    • Hitchhiking
    • Train Hopping
    • Bike Touring
    • Boat Punk / Sailing
    • Other Forms of Travel
  • Preparation
    • Equipment & Gear - nuke/delete --> sub-categories below will be moved to root/frontpage/preparation
      • General Gear Discussion (no changes)
      • Clothing (no changes)
      • Backpacks & Pouches (no changes)
      • Musical Instruments (no changes)
      • Portable Shelters (no changes)
      • Sleeping Bags & Bed Rolls (no changes)
      • Stoves & Cookware (no changes)
      • Technology (no changes)
      • Weapons & Tools (no changes)
    • Making a Living -> rename to Finding Work & Making Money (Money, Work, & Food?)
    • Where to Sleep / Finding Shelter / Sleep for Free (new section)
    • Staying Healthy (no changes)
      • Addiction & Recovery (new section)
    • Wilderness Survival --> possibly merge with where to sleep?
  • Lifestyle --> rename to Travel Culture
    • Art & Music - art merged with hobbies & projects below
      - music gets own section, posts moved
      - movies gets own section, posts moved
    • Travel Music (new)
    • Travel Movies (new)
    • People & Cultures - not sure what to do with this, we have some good news articles here?
    • Sex & Relationships (no changes)
  • Off the Road (new category)
    • Squatting --> rename to Squatting & Alternative Housing
    • Alternative Housing --> merge into Squatting & Alternative Housing
    • Your projects & websites --> rename to Hobbies & Projects
    • Politics & Anarchism (no changes)
    • General Banter (no changes)
  • StP Headquarters (no changes)
    • Squatters of the Round Table
    • StP Projects
      • StP Podcast (Archived)
      • 2013 Podcast
    • Website Announcements
    • Questions & Feedback
    • Den of the Banned
  • Help Area (possibly move to a sub-category in introductions)


  • Resources --> rename to wiki to make more obvious you can contribute info
    • Pet Resources
    • Anarchist Information
    • Resources for Bicycle Travel
    • Train Hopping Resources
    • Hitchhiking Resources
    • Sailing & Boat Punk Resources
    • Other Forms of Travel
    • Travel Gear & Equipment
    • Job Resources & Making Money
    • Staying Healthy on the Road
    • Wilderness Survival
    • Urban Exploration
    • Van Dwelling / Rubber Tramping
    • Events, Gatherings, and Festivals
    • Squatting Resources

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Okay, so that's it. Feel free to make your suggestions, post opinions, click on the upvote and downvote arrows next to each posts to praise or smite opinions and lets see how this all works out.
 
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Hey folks, I'm testing a new system where people can suggest ideas and solutions for questions people have about how StP should work. This new section is tentatively being called 'punk parliment' and it uses a addon for our forum software that lets people upvote and downvote suggestions for StP. The most upvoted suggestions will be implemented and less good suggestions will be filtered to the bottom.

So, with that out of the way, here's the first topic for your input:

I'm planning a restructuring of the message board sections as outlined below:

  • Around the Campfire
    • Introductions (no changes)
    • Travel Stories (no changes)
    • Punk Parliament (new section)
  • Finding Others (Crust List)
    • Ride Board Forum --> possibly merge with road dogs?
    • Road Dogs & Meet Up (if above, rename to Rides & Road Dogs?)
    • Crust Surfing Forum (no changes)
    • Missed Connections (no changes)
    • Obituaries (no changes)
    • Untrustworthy and Shady People (no changes)
  • Where to?
    • Destinations by Region (no changes)
      • North America
        • Canada
        • United States
        • Mexico
      • Central America
      • South America
      • Europe
      • Asia
      • Africa
      • Oceania
    • Events / Gatherings / Festivals (no changes)
    • Urban Exploration (no changes)
    • StP Dirty Scouts Jamboree --> moved from Around the Campfire to here
      • 2018 Jamboree
      • 2017 Jamboree
      • 2016 Jamboree
      • 2015 Jamboree
      • StP Fest III (2009)
  • Getting There (no changes)
    • Van Dwelling
    • Hitchhiking
    • Train Hopping
    • Bike Touring
    • Boat Punk / Sailing
    • Other Forms of Travel
  • Preparation
    • Equipment & Gear - nuke/delete --> sub-categories below will be moved to root/frontpage/preparation
      • General Gear Discussion (no changes)
      • Clothing (no changes)
      • Backpacks & Pouches (no changes)
      • Musical Instruments (no changes)
      • Portable Shelters (no changes)
      • Sleeping Bags & Bed Rolls (no changes)
      • Stoves & Cookware (no changes)
      • Technology (no changes)
      • Weapons & Tools (no changes)
    • Making a Living -> rename to Finding Work & Making Money (Money, Work, & Food?)
    • Where to Sleep / Finding Shelter / Sleep for Free (new section)
    • Staying Healthy (no changes)
      • Addiction & Recovery (new section)
    • Wilderness Survival --> possibly merge with where to sleep?
  • Lifestyle --> rename to Travel Culture
    • Art & Music - art merged with hobbies & projects below
      - music gets own section, posts moved
      - movies gets own section, posts moved
    • Travel Music (new)
    • Travel Movies (new)
    • People & Cultures - not sure what to do with this, we have some good news articles here?
    • Sex & Relationships (no changes)
  • Off the Road (new category)
    • Squatting --> rename to Squatting & Alternative Housing
    • Alternative Housing --> merge into Squatting & Alternative Housing
    • Your projects & websites --> rename to Hobbies & Projects
    • Politics & Anarchism (no changes)
    • General Banter (no changes)
  • StP Headquarters (no changes)
    • Squatters of the Round Table
    • StP Projects
      • StP Podcast (Archived)
      • 2013 Podcast
    • Website Announcements
    • Questions & Feedback
    • Den of the Banned
  • Help Area (possibly move to a sub-category in introductions)


  • Resources --> rename to wiki to make more obvious you can contribute info
    • Pet Resources
    • Anarchist Information
    • Resources for Bicycle Travel
    • Train Hopping Resources
    • Hitchhiking Resources
    • Sailing & Boat Punk Resources
    • Other Forms of Travel
    • Travel Gear & Equipment
    • Job Resources & Making Money
    • Staying Healthy on the Road
    • Wilderness Survival
    • Urban Exploration
    • Van Dwelling / Rubber Tramping
    • Events, Gatherings, and Festivals
    • Squatting Resources

--------------------------------------------------------

Okay, so that's it. Feel free to make your suggestions, post opinions, click on the upvote and downvote arrows next to each posts to praise or smite opinions and lets see how this all works out.

I did always think it was mildly annoying to sort through different subforums just to see comments on sleeping bags. But not anything other than that. Definitely some solid changes that I'm all in favor of.

You've condensed what needed to be condensed, and expanded what could've used expansion. Zero complaints here.
 

Stiv Rhodes

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For the most part, I like the new changes, but I think Squatting and Alternative Housing should stay separated. They could maybe even fit as sub categories in Finding Shelter, alongside Urban Camping and Wilderness Survival.
 
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Matt Derrick

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For the most part, I like the new changes, but I think Squatting and Alternative Housing should stay separated. They could maybe even fit as sub categories in Finding Shelter, alongside Urban Camping and Wilderness Survival.
So we're thinking possibly:
Where to Sleep (root/parent), with squatting, wilderness survival, alternative housing and a (new) section called urban camping as sub/child categories?
 

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Hey folks, I'm testing a new system where people can suggest ideas and solutions for questions people have about how StP should work. This new section is tentatively being called 'punk parliment' and it uses a addon for our forum software that lets people upvote and downvote suggestions for StP. The most upvoted suggestions will be implemented and less good suggestions will be filtered to the bottom.

So, with that out of the way, here's the first topic for your input:

I'm planning a restructuring of the message board sections as outlined below:

  • Around the Campfire

    • Introductions (no changes)
    • Travel Stories (no changes)
    • Punk Parliament (new section)

  • Finding Others (Crust List)

    • Ride Board Forum --> possibly merge with road dogs?
    • Road Dogs & Meet Up (if above, rename to Rides & Road Dogs?)
    • Crust Surfing Forum (no changes)
    • Missed Connections (no changes)
    • Obituaries (no changes)
    • Untrustworthy and Shady People (no changes)

  • Where to?

    • Destinations by Region (no changes)
      • North America
        • Canada
        • United States
        • Mexico
      • Central America
      • South America
      • Europe
      • Asia
      • Africa
      • Oceania

    • Events / Gatherings / Festivals (no changes)
    • Urban Exploration (no changes)
    • StP Dirty Scouts Jamboree --> moved from Around the Campfire to here
      • 2018 Jamboree
      • 2017 Jamboree
      • 2016 Jamboree
      • 2015 Jamboree
      • StP Fest III (2009)

  • Getting There (no changes)

    • Van Dwelling
    • Hitchhiking
    • Train Hopping
    • Bike Touring
    • Boat Punk / Sailing
    • Other Forms of Travel

  • Preparation

    • Equipment & Gear - nuke/delete --> sub-categories below will be moved to root/frontpage/preparation
      • General Gear Discussion (no changes)
      • Clothing (no changes)
      • Backpacks & Pouches (no changes)
      • Musical Instruments (no changes)
      • Portable Shelters (no changes)
      • Sleeping Bags & Bed Rolls (no changes)
      • Stoves & Cookware (no changes)
      • Technology (no changes)
      • Weapons & Tools (no changes)

    • Making a Living -> rename to Finding Work & Making Money (Money, Work, & Food?)
    • Where to Sleep / Finding Shelter / Sleep for Free (new section)
    • Staying Healthy (no changes)
      • Addiction & Recovery (new section)
    • Wilderness Survival --> possibly merge with where to sleep?

  • Lifestyle --> rename to Travel Culture

    • Art & Music - art merged with hobbies & projects below
      - music gets own section, posts moved
      - movies gets own section, posts moved
    • Travel Music (new)
    • Travel Movies (new)
    • People & Cultures - not sure what to do with this, we have some good news articles here?
    • Sex & Relationships (no changes)

  • Off the Road (new category)

    • Squatting --> rename to Squatting & Alternative Housing
    • Alternative Housing --> merge into Squatting & Alternative Housing
    • Your projects & websites --> rename to Hobbies & Projects
    • Politics & Anarchism (no changes)
    • General Banter (no changes)

  • StP Headquarters (no changes)

    • Squatters of the Round Table
    • StP Projects
      • StP Podcast (Archived)
      • 2013 Podcast
    • Website Announcements
    • Questions & Feedback
    • Den of the Banned

  • Help Area (possibly move to a sub-category in introductions)


  • Resources --> rename to wiki to make more obvious you can contribute info
    • Pet Resources
    • Anarchist Information
    • Resources for Bicycle Travel
    • Train Hopping Resources
    • Hitchhiking Resources
    • Sailing & Boat Punk Resources
    • Other Forms of Travel
    • Travel Gear & Equipment
    • Job Resources & Making Money
    • Staying Healthy on the Road
    • Wilderness Survival
    • Urban Exploration
    • Van Dwelling / Rubber Tramping
    • Events, Gatherings, and Festivals
    • Squatting Resources

--------------------------------------------------------

Okay, so that's it. Feel free to make your suggestions, post opinions, click on the upvote and downvote arrows next to each posts to praise or smite opinions and lets see how this all works out.
aside from merging road dogs with the ride board i like it
 

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So we're thinking possibly:
Where to Sleep (root/parent), with squatting, wilderness survival, alternative housing and a (new) section called urban camping as sub/child categories?
Wilderness and survival is more about just sleeping though isnt it?
What if someone wants to learn about other aspects of wildernes survivalist culture and tips but doesnt think to look under Where to sleep cuz theyre thinking about other stuff like foraging for food in the woods and shit like that? Idk
I like the urban camping thing though.
 
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Wilderness and survival is more about just sleeping though is it?
What if someone wants to learn about other aspects of wildernes survivalist culture and tips but doesnt think to look under Where to sleep cuz theyre thinking about other stuff like foraging for food in the woods and shit like that? Idk
I like the urban camping thing though.
It's my opinion that there is a lot of other websites that can do a much better job at teaching you about that kind of stuff than StP can. By providing our own section though, we can let people share ideas as it relates to the travel world; a kind of 'surface level' need-to-know type of stuff without having to be an A to Z encyclopedia of that subject (for which, we can just link to the better websites as mentioned).

I think keeping it under the sleeping section is the best place for now since that will allow folks who are looking for that type of thing to find it the easiest. also keep in mind that i will be making an important change soon that will allow users to see what sub-categories are in main categories from the main page.
 

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I might agree with not merging road dogs with ride board too. The fact that road dogs says meet up lets people know you can be like "hey anyone in shitsville? Im bored and wanna kick it."
Just a thought.
 
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I might agree with that too. The fact that road dogs says meet up lets people know you can be like "hey anyone in shitsville? Im bored and wanna kick it."
yeah, im going to keep the ride board and road dogs separate for now, although it's likely the ride board will get a # of posts requirement before they can create threads there.
 
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I removed the upvote/downvote system since it's interface was confusing. Also i renamed this section suggestion box since that just made a lot more sense.
 

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It's my opinion that there is a lot of other websites that can do a much better job at teaching you about that kind of stuff than StP can. By providing our own section though, we can let people share ideas as it relates to the travel world; a kind of 'surface level' need-to-know type of stuff without having to be an A to Z encyclopedia of that subject (for which, we can just link to the better websites as mentioned).

I think keeping it under the sleeping section is the best place for now since that will allow folks who are looking for that type of thing to find it the easiest. also keep in mind that i will be making an important change soon that will allow users to see what sub-categories are in main categories from the main page.
Ya good call. Its probably best you keep the content more on the alt travel side, so the site doesnt fill up with walker texas ranger types haha.
 
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I miss the list of most recent posts that used to be at the top of the screen. It was convenient. Any plans to have that again?
Yeah I know that's gonna bug some people. The same information is under the 'whats new' link/button so it's really just one click/tap away, and it should show you how many new posts there are (at least on desktop, I'm working on getting that alert working on the mobile tab).
 
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Just to let folks know, I've finished making changes to the arrangement of forum sections. the only exception is 'art & music', which will be separated as outlined in the OP when I get the money to buy some addons that I want to use for those sections.
 

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