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Resources Video How To Turn A Beer Can Into The Only Camping Stove You'll Ever Need

Discussion in 'Stoves & Cookware' started by Matt Derrick, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Matt Derrick

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    I fucking love easy little stoves like this!
     
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    looks like a neat design. i always like to make similar types of these. most of my food is cooked on them when im on the road.
     
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    That's awesome.
     
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    best part is I actually tried it and it worked. I have a stove now!
     
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    dang this is waaay easier than the things ive seen on instructables and what not. simpler and it actually works and isnt a bitch to get lit
     
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    Can somebody please pin this thread? I'd been looking at camping stoves all morning and this beauty basically mimics the best stove currently on the market for ultralite gear, (evernew Titanium alcohol stove) which is $99!
    Needless to say this can-stove is an important money saver for any traveler, and an instant addition to my pack.
     
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    I was gonna drop a c-note on a solo camp stove. Thx Matt! I agree with Aurum, this should be pinned somewhere. That lil tin can could save someones life this winter

    Sent From The Future
     
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    I use this thing all the time to make food in the park etc with it. You pretty much don't need a stove if you know how to make one of these. Also the rubbing alcohol can be used as sanitizer or cleaner. And is easier to obtain than the fuel used in conventional stoves. Remember to always try to get the highest percent of rubbing alcohol (91 percent is best!)
    Tip: you can use cardboard to block the wind.
     
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    DSCN2888.JPG DSCN2886.JPG DSCN2886.JPG I tried making one of these,it was ok but was a bit wild so i stuck with my trusty Trangia just cos i keep keep fuel in it as it has a screw on cap.Pic of my cook kit - Trangia stove,home made fold up stand/windshield,cook pot and firesteel and it all fit's in the pot ;) (i got sick n tired of trying to use matches and lighter's in the wind)
     
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    Only took me a couple minutes to make one.
     
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    just off to the wee house in the garden cans in hand...and wife's rubbing alcohol ...think this is a keeper
    unlike the wife lol
     
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    there's a fucking equation.. somewhere, that follows *something* like this:
    VxCxO=C

    Volume X Combustibles x Oxygen = Heat (calories)

    this may be entirely *WRONG*, ok (please refine as required) but the main thing is the common sense understanding of how to build a fire within a cylindrical structure..

    for V/H (the *constant* ratio of volume to height) a cylinder is (arguably) the most efficient..

    aluminum is better if calculated in a mass/volume/caloric output for an ideal updraft cylinder, but *only* if you wish to build an ideal chimney based upon mass & specific heat before phase transition..

    ie, aluminum melts at a higher temperature than steel, so per gram of aluminum encompassing am equal volume, yes, the same mass of steel melts fat sooner.. by fucking far..

    the problem is getting equivalently thick aluminum, because when you get down to it?
    the difference between building a stove out of 4" diam, 6" high steel stove that distributes the heat through the mass of the chimney is a ratio of 2.7 (aluminum) to 7.85 (steel).
    the thing is how much heat cal be applied (m/c) before the chimney fails..
    this is actually very complex, but what it says is that a steel can of twice the mass of an aluminum can, can take about 50% more heat before failing of an aluminum can *of the same mass*..

    THEREFORE, if you want the most efficient (mass to volume), low cost, cylindrical hobo aluminum stove, DO NOT USE AN ALUMINUM CAN, unless you are willing to build an ancillary chimney.. (stone, clay, bury in dirt, whatever)..

    get a THICK WALLED ALUMINUM DRINK CAN OF THE WIDEST DIAMETER YOU ARE ABLE TO FIND from at thrift store, flea market, whatever.
    NOT a steel drinker..
    although steel drinkers are thicker than steel cans, generally..

    THEN build yer stove & burn grass, gasoline infused grass, scrap wood, scrap wood & paraffin (crayons) whatever.. follow the standard airflow / chamber geometry commonly posted..

    personally?

    steel is great, specifically because it is *denser*..

    a steel wall deforms *less* than an aluminum wall of the same mass, because the force of deformation is distributed over a smaller *area*.. this is only true, however, when the wall thickness is the same *mass* per area as steel..

    the mass/density ratio is about 3 :1 (steel :alum)

    the specific heat of steel is 0.45 kj/Kg & alum is 0.91 Kj/Kg..
    the mass to specific heat ratio, then, is about 1:2..
    this is critical when you start applying forces to heated/radiating elements..
    ultimately i *think* this means that you get about a 1.5 :1 pre-failure performance ratio of alum vs. steel for a *single load bearing event* near the specific heat (ie melting point) threshold

    aluminum cans are milled *way* thinner than steel.. about 1/3 for usage at ambient temperatures..

    if you want to make a *stove*, though, that functions as a single unit & is reusable, use a steel can..
    better yet, use a broken ceramic cup with no bottom, or a piece of clay pipe..

    the main constrain is chimney temp prior to failure, & silica beats the fuck out of iron & alum..
    the other thing is bellows..
    you want HOT, asap??
    get a nice steel, aluminum or copper pipe, about 1/2" in diam, 2' long & use that fucker to light up yer stove..
    i *GUARANTEE* you, that if you oxygenate a fire in a steel or aluminum chimney, steadily, for 5 minutes, with steady breath, using just fucking scrap wood or dense dry plants, the fuckers will start to melt, physical; constants be damned.,.

    a non-porous ceramic chimney will be fucking rocking, however..

    anyways.. a can is nice, but if yer going to *cook*, instead of just heat, use the can/s as chimneys & combustion chambers, with widening diffusers, rather than as the place you rest your pan to cook.

    the efficiency of *any* straight cylinder stove can be improved, just by adding aspiration (a blow-tube or bellows. or breathing) & a flared outlet to distribute the caloric energy..
     
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    not digging on the OP by any means!!

    just commenting on the dynamics of a *cellulose* based stove..
     
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    for anyone that's curious, if you can't make this stove yourself you can buy them on etsy for about $9. there's only a couple of people making them, and the advantage is that they're improving the designs all the time. on the flip side of the coin, if you can make these, you should start selling them on etsy :p
     
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    was bored and just made one of these... super simple! im trying it out tomorrow if anyones interested ill post how it goes
     
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    please do, i'll probably post a video myself next time i make one.
     
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    But how much alcohol a stove like this uses in case you want to cook something that takes a while like rice?
     
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    You can generally cook a pot of rice without having to refill the soda can stove, so it's really not an issue unless you're cooking for more than 2 people.
     
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    well i didnt get a video yet but i got a pic. it does exactly what its supposed to do and only takes like 10 minutes give or take to make
     

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