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Gas jugging lines/tips?

Discussion in 'Making A Living' started by Skit, Jul 6, 2014.

  1. Skit

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    The truth probably isn't going to work: I have little money, but I'd rather it go to substances than gas.

    What has worked well for you?
     
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    Perhaps you should rearrange your priorities.
     
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    I think he was actually asking for specifix tips, not for someone to critisize what he does.

    In response to the actual question at hand, I have never had to hug for myself but wheni jug for my rides I usually just say hey we are about it of had any chance you could help us get some to get to the next town?

    I usually find it more profitable to panhandle andgive that money to my rides for gas
     
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    Post editing not working. What I meant to say was"we are about out of gas, any chance you could help us out with a little to get to the next town? " alternatively, churches and cops will often get you a gas card to get out of town if you have a story about needing to get to court or a hospital on a certain date
     
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    Scamming people who out of kindness are trying to help what they think is a stranded stranger is fucked up. If they see you later drinking beer, yet in the same general area, they will realize that is where the money went and they will just become more cynical toward anyone else looking for help next time.

    @TheWindAndRain:
    How dare anyone criticize someone for lying, manipulating and deceiving just so they can receive the money to get the substance that in part makes them so numb and uncaring in the first place? It is not like liars and cheats make bad company or should be admonished or anything, anyone can just do anything to anyone and it should be totally accepted without judgment. This past thread deserves mentioning in this context:
    Travelers in the Wrong; My rant on selfish arrogant dirty kids

    It is pretty obvious that the average worker to the original poster is like a body filled with blood and Skit sees himself like a mosquito of sorts.
     
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  6. Skit

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    You were pretty quick to jump to conclusions. I don't have enough money for my trip anyway so even if I spent my money on nothing but gas I wouldn't make it. I'm going to see a dying relative and having a drink before sleep each night makes it a little more bearable. Yeah, I COULD go without it but I don't want to. I'm not a helpless drunkard, I've got all my teeth and am always grateful to everyone who has helped me out along the ways. I've never stolen from anyone on the road, everything I've received has been offered or, on the rare occasion, asked for.

    Why I asked for tips is because I've noticed that with spanging if you're honest you generally don't get help. But I've seen people fly signs "need $ for beer", yuppies laugh at the "honesty" of the sign and then they spent the money on beans and bread. If being honest was the most successful possibility I would do it, but because people don't always respond positively to honesty I thought I would ask some people with a little more experience than me on what works.

    My goal is to give travelers a better name and I've succeeded in doing so many times. You can't judge a person by a thread they post on a travel site, it's kind of arrogant that you thought you could.
     
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    First off, like most Americans I have lots of experience with addicts of alcohol and drugs, because there are just so many. Like the outdated and debunked helio-centric view of the universe you maintain the very common, yet just as abhorrent, self-o-centric view of the universe. The world is not there to cater to your whims and desires. Even if your story about a sick relative is true, which I doubt due to experience with addicts' excuses, what does that change? People generally will not sympathize that you just want to get drunk, so they won't give money for that. I know I don't. You seem to think instead the world revolves around you and what you want, so thus you think it is ok to scam others for alcohol money because you know honesty will not get you what you want. Instead due to your addiction you think it is ok to go to the extreme of making others think you are stranded and need gas money.

    Like MolotovMocktail said in the first reply you received, you need to look at changing your priorities. That you are "not a helpless drunkard, and have all your teeth," I think can likely be attributed to your comparative youth. At my local train station an old homeless bum with a very sad looking, hideously discolored, red, ruddy face can frequently be spotted. Because that is just what alcohol does to you after decade after decade of abuse, the damage piles up with age and doesn't manifest in the immediacy of youth.

    There is an epic thread that Ravie started:
    Travelers in the Wrong; My rant on selfish arrogant dirty kids
    on how many travelers look at "normal" working folk as prey to scam and live off. Yet if within your group someone was equally as dishonest and shady using you as a means to an end, would you be whining in the "untrustworthy and shady people" sub-forum?
     
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    Yeah, nobody on the road who receives money should ever spend it on anything other than food. Right. Sure. Seriously, if you're going to get upset that everybody isn't spending their money 100% on what you approve, maybe you should get a job with the IRS or some other suitable organization to provide an outlet for your obsession with what other people are doing with their money.

    Nothing wrong with being honest, you just don't have to give all the details. Jugging is easy, just walk right up to somebody at the pump with your jug and ask if they can spare a splash of gas to help you get down the road. You don't have to make up a story, and if anybody asks, just tell them exactly what you're doing. You'd be amazed how many people will support what you're doing. Some people will give you cash, so pocket that, and buy yourself some beer later.

    Oh, and get yourself a 5 gallon jug. The bigger the jug, the quicker it'll go; if somebody wants to fill your whole jug, and you only have a 2 or 3 gallon jug, you're cutting yourself short.
     
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    @Dameon:
    It is funny the justifications you can conjure up to justify tricking people that it is ok to pretend to be in need gasoline money or gasoline, to get beer instead. But addicts are masters at justifications and often quite self-centered. I guess just like the rich, you think other people are there to be used and abused to serve your needs.

    Too funny that you write "nothing wrong with being honest," when you have a big problem with it, mainly that you know it won't give you the booze money that you want.
     
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    I don't think I justified tricking anybody. I think I advocated a high level of honesty. We aren't talking about somebody scamming people, we're talking about somebody who couldn't afford to get where they're going anyway asking for some help along the way, and spending some of the money on beer.

    Your holier-than-thou, judgmental attitude is unjustified, but I just looked at your other posts, and that's your modus operandi. Lots of posts telling other people what's wrong with them. Maybe time to stop looking for what's wrong with other people, and figure out what's wrong with you that you think your "hard line" attitude of insulting other people when you disagree with their perspectives is useful or accomplishing anything. Yes, everybody who does any substance is an addict, because you can't enjoy life without being uptight and believing that anybody having more fun than you is a lesser person.

    I'm currently laughing, it's making the other people in the library look at me funny.

    Aren't you the one that was talking about scamming your job out of unemployment benefits? Isn't that a lot more money than the paltry sum this guy will receive from willing strangers and spend on beer? Is it only morally acceptable to scam a transit company, which like many transit companies is quite likely underfunded? Oh, but see, you don't consider that tricking anybody or scamming anybody, or have already justified it to yourself in some other way. Talk about self-centered.

    What, poor people can't have a beer or smoke a joint? I guess just like the rich, you think poor people are not allowed to enjoy their lives at all, and only allowed to spend money on what you morally approve.

    Done arguing here, so go ahead and get in your last word, I won't respond.
     
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    @Dameon:
    Why did you bother to write all those cheap justifications. The original poster was quite clear in his first sentence of his situation and intentions:
    Yet you wrote all those bs justifications as if you were him. Infact it reminds of this thread:
    Where another traveler also looked at working people as resources to scam a living off. When he was called out, he too back-peddled and pretended he didn't write his first post. Now to be clear I am not a conventional law and order type, but I have ethics which you apparently hate and think are pesky, as it gets in your way since you are far more self-centered and using other people as duped tools to satisfy your needs is more convenient for you. To be clear, I know the rich serve the same role in society. Still I don't think doing what the rich do by law and institutional fiat, from the bottom of the social order is ok or ethical, either. Scamming and living off others who often have to work hard just so you can fuel your addiction is not cool. At least if the original poster was gonna straight up pan-handle which does not involving impersonating someone needing gas or being stranded as a ruse, would have had some honor to it.
     
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    I've sold a car before and didn't have to purchase gas anymore. That worked for me.

    For you, I recommend:
    Sell your car.
    Buy substances.
    Profit.
     
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    I surrender my beliefs and fully embrace yours Thrashymachus, you achieved everything you set out to do.
     
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    Addicts often pretend to say things they don't mean. Just like how you think it is ok to resort to trickery, whereas people who can control their alcohol habit when presented with a similar lack of money, simply won't drink. Simple as that.
     
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    Perhaps the people throwing around ad hominems should start their own thread addressing the topic of whether gas jugging and then buying beer is ethical, rather than hijacking a thread to preach their own morality and insult people who disagree with them.
     
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    I challenge you if you have the guts, since you falsely assume it is "my own morality":
    POST SKIT'S ORIGINAL POST(NO ADULTERATION, JUST COPY AND PASTE) TO ANY FORUM FULL OF THE SO CALLED NORMAL WORKING STIFF SUCKERS(WHO YOU THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SCAM OFF). Then post the url here. Or you could ask people in the library and upload a video. I have a feeling this simple anonymous challenge is too much for you and you instead will prefer to feel confident that other addict travelers like yourself negative my posts, as you are so far into your perverted group morality, you forgot how the other half lives.

    And you will see how "my own morality" this is not, if you ever have the courage to follow this simple anonymous challenge(since the people on a prospective forum will never meet you in real life). But you are so far deep into planet addiction, I don't think you even know where the ground is. To be clear I am not saying I have the morality of the mainstream or respect their morality in its totality. But in this area I agree: fucking over and deceiving good Samaritans is wrong.
     
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    I LOL'd.

    This thread has been one of the more amusing diversions of the day. Now off to get my addict self an addictive beer, and put it in my addicted stomach, while feeding my lungs an addictive cigarette and just addicting all over the place.
     
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    Thrashymachus I hope my kids spange from your kids and use the money to buy beer for random people with the intention to turn them into addicts.
    Thanks for the tips everyone else, I normally don't travel long distances by car but this is time sensitive.
     
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    I won't have kids ever. The world is too shitty a place to personally punish a new generation. Everyone is just like you. You are the traveler/train kid version of the conventional American with the job, the home, the nice car, the family. You don't give a shit about the people you scam as long as you get drunk or high. They don't care about about the wars of aggression, exploitative institutions, and coerced, dead, enslaved bodies that maintain their lifestyle either, as long as they have the possessions they want. See, you are not so different than those you live off.

    And seriously, for you especially:
    Don't have kids. If you cannot even man up and get the money for one hours of wage labor even at minimum wage for a few beers by even sponging off others honestly(with no gas canister ruses), raising kids for the next eighteen years is way too much commitment for you.
     
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    dont entertain the troll. i think thrasymachus needs a beer
     
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