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I was just about to post a thread about Zyn nicotine pouches, and I had the craziest idea.

Anyone into creating a Drugs/Alcohol/Addiction' Section?

I know there are so many threads on here about it, it may be a serious benefit to other out there to read other peoples stories, struggles, and the ways they have overcome/managed addiction.

I can see the obvious downsides to this, but I think the pros outweigh the cons.

Lemme know what y'all think.
 
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I think that it could potentially be useful. I dunno how many of us here are actually in recovery from booze/drugs. I am sober and in recovery & have been open about my sobriety. I even got sober while traveling! Addiction in the traveling community is & has always been so rampant. A scourge really that is so entwined in the identity of many travelers. Most who are in the perils of addiction either don't know or don't care. I would argue that most travelers are way past don't know. I bet many are stuck in between wanting to care but also crippled by fear, locked in daily maintenance and good old just not giving a fuck. No addict/alcoholic wants anyone to tell them what to do. Misery also loves company & water finds its own level & all that jazz. Many just destroy or are destroyed by addiction without ever trying to stop in "earnest". I had to be desperate enough to admit that I was defeated by alcohol. Travelers also have the ability to just fuck shit up around them & just keep it moving. Eventually even traveling itself may get in the way of drinking/drugging. Many know of people that went to NYC for the dope then couldn't leave or the kids that are in NOLA months after Mardi Gras ended doing the same redundant shit every night. Then again, many have probably kicked X,Y, Z while traveling only to substitute for what ever else was/is around asap.

If anything such a section could be useful to those who have already actually getting sober or have long term/quality sobriety/clean time. I personally rarely interact with people who drink/drug anymore as they simply do not exist in my circles. STP may actually be the last bastion where alcohol/drugs are used by peers in any area of my life. Those of us who have recovered may be willing to share in such a section but its hard to share without sounding preachy. Its also difficult to try to argue with drunks who are so philosophically opposed to hearing about alternatives. Drunks also love conflict but as with anywhere else on STP we all must be civil & play by the rules.

I personally have sought out sober/recovering road dawgs to travel with on STP several times & always end up going it alone. The definition of clean & sober is really important to me. Lots of people throw the word sober/clean around & actually believe that if they didn't use that day/week/month/year that they are free from addiction. Several times have I met up or traveled with others only to learn within hours that they lied about themselves being sober/clean. I do wish I had a sober network of fellow travelers as I once had among touring punk bands.I know that such affiliations exist but also know how rarely such connections occur. As anyone who has tried to find that perfect traveling companion online will probably affirm. Many people have a tough time maintaining early sobriety, especially around triggers and being away from ones support network. Such a section could exist as a place to retain a beloved part of their life while they get/maintain sobriety. It is a real thing that once sober/clean to find healthy alternatives to occupy their time. I have read hundreds of times about people returning to STP because they are now on probation because of boozing/drugging, that are now housed up & or trying to get their lives together while off the road. While all of STP is good for this, perhaps having some place specific could be beneficial.
 
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I had to be desperate enough to admit that I was defeated by alcoho
I'm almost there.

If anything such a section could be useful to those who have already actually getting sober or have long term/quality sobriety/clean time
Very much why I made this suggestion.

Those of us who have recovered may be willing to share in such a section but its hard to share without sounding preachy
Ya, this is one of the downsides I was talking about.

I just think it would be good to have a place where people can freely talk about these issues, and it not get caught up in all of the other threads on StP. Addiction is such a big issue in the traveling community, as @highwaypointed out. It just may help some people feel like they are not alone

However, I do want to point out that social media is never an alternative to counseling and professional help, and never will be. But this circle of people will always have a large group who feels like that is not the solution for them.
 

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I would also like to add that I have never been in treatment, rehab, halfway houses, detox or ever had any type of professional help and or counseling. With my experience in AA, I hear of lots of stories of the many paths visited on people's journeys. Some of us try and try many techniques without addressing the root causes of our addiction. Sadly until we stop drinking/drugging for at least a few months to a few years; our emotions & thinking will still be askew. Constant success and failures can be hard but what is the alternative? I know people who have been in and out of programs for 30+ years with little success and or concurrent quality time accumulated. Then there's a whole lot of us that have achieved much with informal peer to peer, leaderless programs like AA.

I think everyone uses what works or better yet experiments with what doesn't work. It takes a lot to look in the mirror and admit that X,Y, Z didn't work because of me sabotaging my own well being. It is often said that isolation is the real killer. Being or feeling alone is never good just as being in the wrong company can detract from ones recovery. Part of my staying sober is in helping others by sharing my experience. If there is a way to combine my new sober life with STP, all the better. I've collected a toolbox full of stuff that works for me under any/all circumstances. It could be nice to interact with others who are in the same boat here.

For those riddled with the normal fears, excuses, shame, doubt and or inaction around getting clean/sober, I suggest trying something. I'm always down to privately pm, text or speak about stuff with those interested too. I'm not always available (I work on the ocean) but try to be an honest and experienced sounding board/listener.
 
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