Does anyone know the origin of the squatters rights symbol

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So yea pretty self explanatory I'm curious if anyone knows why the circle N is the squatters rights symbol, the origin of it, and if the symbol has been around since like ancient times or if it's relatively new? If it had an original meaning that's been changed or evolved ect. Thanks!
 
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ive heard at least half a dozen stories about the origin of the symbol, some coming from old hobo symbols modifying it and some having something to do with the circle being the building and the arrow representing said squatter since it starts outside of the circle (building) goes through it (representing staying in the building) then with the end of the arrow leaving the building and moving on. that ones probobly my favorite but honestly i couldnt tell you the true origin of it, ide never really thought about it before actually.
 

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Good question. I could not find it in a list of old hobo signs, but I only looked at one site. there were a couple kind of close, but not quite right http://www.worldpath.net/~minstrel/hobosign.htm
i think what i heard they were refering to the "get out fast" or "wrong way" ones. although the meaning of the symbols kinda contradicts squatting, but like i said, it was just one of those hobo stories ide heard but never gave much more thought to.
 

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It reminds me of the anarchy symbol, (the n not being contained to the circle) first thing that comes to my mind is "inside out" getting inside to squat, getting back out to trot


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I'm on my cell but I believe there is a Wikipedia article about squatting that lays out the history of the symbol.

Nothing to do with hobo symbols as far as I know. Short version is that it originated in Europe in the late 70's and early 80's (keep in mind this was where squatting was strongest) and it started out as reversed (from the way we know it now) so it looked like an S (for 'squat') and somewhere along the way it got flipped so it was an N. I have no way to prove that but I know I read it somewhere...
 
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What if it has a D and an R on either side of it? There is a girl with a tattoo like that in this rad photo series: http://www.michaeljosephphotographics.com/album/lost-and-found
Some people have tattoos that look like train tracks, but in hoboglyphs I guess that means ‘unsafe place’? I’m guessing they were going for train tracks. Hoboglyphs are cool, but confusing (but I’m no hobo pro)
 
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Ok, I only skimmed through so I apologize if anybody mentioned this meaning:

·The circle represents the womb, or shelter
·The bent arrow represents your path through life.

So in turn it means "may you always have shelter on your path through life"
 
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Ok, so the circle is known to represent the womb, or shelter:
Some Circle Symbol-Meaning Keywords
  • Womb
  • Focus
  • Unity
  • *shelter
https://www.whats-your-sign.com/circle-symbol-meaning.html

I'm still searching for the bent arrow, but I did find a good start, perhaps they just added lines to the horizontal axis creating an "n" shape.

The horizontal axis, represents the path from birth to death, beginning to end, and linear time. This axis represents life on earth as a binary, linear process- life to death, beginning to end, and the dual nature of human existence evidenced by our symmetrical shapes: left and right, male and female, good and evil.
http://symboldictionary.net/?p=1914


Then in the west coast version you will see a line through the start of the arrow, I'm pretty sure this was just to include feminist symbology...
 
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Whether I'm correct or not, this is what it means to me:

·The circle represents the womb, or shelter
·The bent arrow represents your sacred path through life.

Therefore (to me) the symbol represents "May you always have shelter on your sacred path through life"

...and while I can't prove it, I think the origins of the symbol were derived from a similar notion.
 

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