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I am very saddened to announce that we have had to permanently ban @creature from StP. Creature has been a significant financial backer of StP for the past few years, and has done a lot in the past to help support the Dirty Scouts Jamboree with both vehicle assistance and financing food/booze for the event. While eccentric, most of us have enjoyed having Creature as part of our community, especially those of us that have known him in person.

Unfortunately over the past few months, his behavior has gotten increasingly erratic, resulting in countless posts cursing out various users (violating our no flaming rule) on the message board; this is in addition to many, many drunken tirades being posted that were difficult to decipher. From the sound of things, Creature started hitting the bottle pretty hard (sake, to be specific) and this seems to be contributing to his increasing lack of control.

While I have known Creature in real life and 100% believe he has a good heart and excellent intentions, his deteriorating state has violated our rules many, many times more than we would usually allow from any other user. Due to his latest cursing fit in this thread, the staff decided that we can no longer let this go on despite how some of us may feel about him personally; this resulted in two warnings being issued, leading to his account being muted.

Upon receiving the notification message that his second warning had been issued (and that his account was now muted for 30 days) he proceeded to post the following:

Ok.. this is new..

carefull about the resources you burn, assholes..

my name has a line stricken through it..


am i able to still reply?

if so, then.. i invite you to this:

& if not, then you may read it in this convo, instead:

Jay,

I've sent you $400, via WU.

Your tracking # is *************

confirming: **************

yep, they match.. : )

the sake' hasn't hit, yet.. ; )

i'm going to respond on StP, but there's a chance i won't be on there, for long..

Glorious Leader has lost control to his mongrels, & i think they dislike the fact that i have no real leash..

however, since the convo is the first thing i'm going to hit, you should at least get my reply via email.

let me know how much the truck will cost to get out of impound, after grabbing Miso from the dog pound, if you can find someone to drive it off lot for you.

anyways, good luck & let me know how things hit.

ALSO.. & i am going to throw you one of my way too oft ignored creature nuggets...

**if you have no outstanding warrants, appear for your hearing/court date**

DO NOT
DO FUCKING NOT


blow off the appearance, unless there's shit already trying to bite you.

see if you can get the venue transferred.. i'll research a little bit on that, after you throw me some details..

Is this your first DUI?

if your license is suspended, & if you plead guilty, or "no contest" on the ticket, & mail it in *before* appearing then all they can hit you up for is the fine, unless they sentence you for some brief period.

i'm not going to play lawyer, at this point, but it seems to me that you should find out whether or not they will incarcerate you or merely fine you, and see if you can appear before the bench or the judge, directly, before your court date.

be carefull, if you take *that* nugget, however, since at that point no PD will have been assigned, and the judge could imprison you for 25 years, if his fucking ham egg & cheese was shitty, that fucking morning..

So..

the main thing is strategy..

they cannot make you pay a fine before you are convicted.

if they convict you &.. well gmail isn't very secure..

let's just say that.. assuming you didn't blow 0.20 or whatever.. that you have, momentarily.. very, very, momentarily..
say.. 4 fucking grand.. AKA "boat".


maybe we can stick some shit up their ass..

or, better, let's say they'll take it in installments, or a minimum of 25%..
i dunno..


just so long as we can throw down enough to have it adjudicated to a fine, rather than an outright sentence..
unless it is just 2 or 3 weeks..
my boat / dream / rv / trip home to mom before she drops dead doesn't cover too much more than a month of what you get for being fucking stupid enough to have been schwilling from a fucking bottle where they could pop you, after the fact.


i'm not being a prick, just fucking zenning...

the sake' grips..

good shit..

i piss people off, with it, but i pretty well much never, ever, ever drive after it enters my fucking bloodstream..

so.. assuming you are just a victim of post blue law MADD prohibitionism & the state's love of money that it is able to engorge itself on, by enforcing flatline roadside justice..

i will do what i humanly can do, if it can actually help with doing anything..

i will repeat, though, *for the present moment*

DO NOT
DO FUCKING NOT


blow off the appearance, unless there's shit already trying to bite you.


you helped me, Jay, so i will fucking help you.
we may not be brothers, but we are fucking comrades.


it would take a hell of a *lot* before i would shoot my brother, or even my mom, before i would shoot you, but..
the war isn't that bad, yet..


if you were just fucked over, you sure as hell are more important than my boat.

if you did something stupid, we'll fight as best we can, together.

main thing is Miso & not seeing you thrown in the slammer for 3 fucking months.
unless you were just being fucking stupid..


if you blew a serious fucking number, it's a wake up call..

either get a gun or lay off the schwill.

if you were .01 or 10 or thereabouts, or whatever fucking decimal it is they try to kill you with..

i have your fucking back.

just be truthfull, use the money you've been sent to rescue your dog & tell me the facts, uncolored, & we'll go from there..

love you, bro..
OK, asshole.. ban away..

not sure if i've been constrained your rules based political methodology, but our friendship, at this instant, ends, unless you have enough fucking brains to understand just what the fuck you are doing, mr. anti-anarchist..


i don't need to fucking be here, & fuck you if you if you think i do.

#1) you shouldn't have issued the warning, but bitched me out, instead, the way *i* am bitching *you* out, now..

if you need rules to moderate, first, instead of speaking directly, & say "holy fuck, john!! (aka C), YOU ARE FUCKING RIGTH THE FUCK FUCKING UP, *****BEORE**** punishing me,
then fuck you & your honey holes..

just fuck you.

i have thousands of hours of work devoted to your site, so.. fuck you..

fuck, man.. i'll be a fucking *enemy*, if that is what is best, to fight you fucks.

i will.

& i'm cool with it.

they may mean i won't do anything, because you aren't important enough.

if you can't reply to me as a friend, as i have always treated you,
& always, always, always treated those whom through you have *asked* for friendship..

then all you deserve is my hate
my enmity
&
my refusal to help you any longer..

i through down, matt, since you are now fucking trolling me, about $3000 at the 2015 jambo, including food & fuel, all told, to bring folks to you, to help you do your shit..

no rules told me that, you fucking fat, weak, glutinous whore..

i did it because i *believed* you were

*strong*

& meaningfull

but i guess you were really no more than a whore.

you'll smile while you swallow cum, so long as you are paid..

soo.... ok..

dinna know that.. my bad..

3k at the jambo (yes, asshole, when you include fuel), not *just* for the 3 days & 22 people, but the $$$ for landing early & taking off late & *still* feeding, drinking, icing, & *transporting* people..

yeah.. 3k, *easy*..

holy fuck.. & jambo # 2?

that was a fast run, tude & jay.. we came in fast, but we came in full fucking loaded..
money down, plus post jambo money..

i'm not even *including* lost fucking wages.. in *either* case..

probably $1500..

tude needed to get home, so i couldn't stay & play...

i *did*, however, come back before christmas.. remember, asshole?
& fed & drank & transported your asses (including running corn to the ER, etc.) for what i think was about two weeks..

that was probably., with 9 people on board, at *least* $750..

PLUS. i took shish gummy to her *mom*
INSTEAD of accepting a job offer @ $36 an hour, which i *would* have taken, was her connection not a consideration..
(& BTW, i ALTERED my trip, significantly, to help her, since the *other* choice was to let her (as a single female) & her cat hitch together, trying to make a fucking deadline before her mom had fucking *spinal* surgery..

so..

i have my hands clasped upon my head, wondering what kind of pussy juiced, shit slicked, cum stuck & spit pissed *idiots* you fucking are, by *NOT* talking to me *directly* (since i have always *been* here for you *di*-*fucking*-**directly**..

fuck you all & fuck me, since i haven't even *touched* on the shit i have done for StPrs, *directly*..

you are no longer fucking 'glorious leader' to me..

you are just fucking 'master troll'

that is all you fucking are, matt..

you were once tired of running StP..

we supported & encouraged you..

now you are just a form based, chinees fucking socialist, non-fucking anarchist piece of shit web site..

that is what you have built.

*if* you *can't* approach friends as *friends* & brothers & sisters

before you piss all over their love..

if you have any balls, at all, you you shitty scum fuck asshole, non-anarchist

you will at least remove whatever constraints you have placed upon me from posting publicly.

otherwise you are just a fucking parent using whore who was a mistake to bring into fucking existence,
or
you have actual balls, instead of fucking sucking shit out of people whom actually *work*, but give to you, because *they* believe whatever lies you have fucking told them are actually truth..

i'm impressed by your ideology, matthew,
& i'm impressed by what you have built...

but i'm not impressed by what you actually *do*, since it seems to depend so much upon asking others to give to you, materially, rather than the inverse of that proposition..

why the *fuck* do you need the jambo??

you have done enough that you need to prove nothing.

you are forcing a desire, rather than a need.

dig, motherfucker:
go through the old posts..

i have offered you *physical* LAND.
i have offered you a *physical* fucking BUS
I have GIVEN the library a goddamned *physical* fucking van, worth at least $1000 that it didn't have the knowledge to care for, & is now dead.

holy fuck.. other than my feet on the ground..

if you *include* all the "non-matthew* money i've dropped on StP individuals & their **direct StP interests*.. i would say, as i have said *before*, about 7 fucking grand..

just on stp members & activities, directly..

& ***fuck***.. FUCK.. money..

my average wage is about.. $20 an hour or less,or maybe a little more, takehome??

say 25, though that may be high..

say 30...

250 hours in the goddamned physical fucking field.. but that's not right, too, since a lot of shit i don't get paid for..

25, as a fucking deal..
280 hours..
TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY HOURS

doing shit that would scare most of you non-physical laborers into a screaming hell that has no clue about what actual physical work is, unless you read the Alaska threads..

so fuck you, fat fucking, weak fucking, turd tubbed fucking master troll & all the mongrel dogs you pet..

fuck you, if you can't speak to a friend, *before* you speak to them as a judge..

fuck you & your dogs..

i'll go join the *other* side, where at least we know things are kept by the fucking books,
instead of pretending they are not..

you are all just fucking cowards, or lazy, if you can't take the time to do the work to talk to those whom have worked *for* you.

i fyou want a fucking enemy, rather than a friend, i am fucking down.

you are easy fucking chicken eggs.

i already tried to delete my account, i could not, so i changed to an unrecoverable email address, & *********THAT******** fucking failed..

so.. for whatever reasons, i am on my goddamned teeth..

either treat me with the friendship i deserve

or goddamned fucking *die*, each & every one of you false goddamned fucking anarchist who care about nothing more than ease of judgement..

O&O,

John..
BTW..

you don't need a new fucking *procedure*, asshole..

you just need enough fucking **common sense** & *care* to evaluate shit before shit before you become machine fucking controlled..

are you hoping to *sell* the fucking site??

is that the depth of your involvement??

that you can dick someone whom loved you so much that their content (whomever they may be) can be fucking *collateraltized* ????

holy fuck..

that is the way you stink, right now..

but..

fuck it..

let your puppies do the easy work..

ask them whom needs to compare what is hard work..

make it public, let me post,

unless you are evil & a fucking coward deserving of nothing, other than what you get from fucking someone like
me
over..

the sky will be your enemy, brother..

make no mistake on that..

what you trade for


you fucking get..


the stone is not past the center...

i love you so, so fucking much, you fucking idiot..

i admire you so, so fucking much..

i admire you so much..

must i fucking cry for you..?

are you *that* goddamned fucking stupid?

do you know.. actually *know*
how to lead,
rather than 'rule'.. ?

you need to shut this fucking place down, if it means more to you, than being what you actually are..

Holy Fuck, Matt, O Glorious Leader...

are you truly no more than machine governed???

do you *really* need to kill the people whom would love you, in order to maintain the rules that allow you to discriminate among the many conflicts which present difficulty?

are you really worth the potentiality of my dying for you, if they physically attack you through this website?

i don't fucking know.

& that is the best answer of all, since i ask the question,

but it has not a fucking to do with actually being able to be here.

so fuck you, you fucking 2 & 3/4 fucking year old toddler fucking almost 3 year old fucking idiot,
if what you ask people to commit to is something *****YOU****** have defined,
with all they are..

you aren't worth it, & you are a fucking mistake..

just another web.com asshole, only fucking poor.

done

my +1500 hours of work toward content be damned.

just fucking die.

go away.

we need no pretending, mr. pyst..

& you (whomever you are)

need better judgement...




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After discussing it privately, the staff reached the consensus that Creature should be banned permanently from the website due to his inability to see how he was breaking the rules and for multiple threats against members of StP, myself, and the staff in general.

It sucks that it had to go down this way, and despite his torrent of threats and insults towards myself, I actually feel no ill will towards him and I hope he seeks out the help he needs in order to get past whatever is affecting him in such a negative way right now.
 
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to make it very clear, despite creatures personal attacks in these messages this was in no way a personal thing from any staff member despite him making several. this kind of behavior will not be tolerated regardless of how long you have been a member or how much you have contributed. none of us were happy to make this decision.
 

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New though I am - Creature's rant here seems more than anything like a cry for help, loud as any I've heard.
... I understand, and support the staff's ban & the reasoning behind this.
... As humans, as Friends - Wow, Hard! Sorry & condolences to all people involved and touched.


I would humbly suggest - Any FRIENDS, with a physical 20 on Creature, and the means and heart to do so... Go Be A Friend! Go try to help, your friend John - support him in his battle with whatever personal demons are causing this collapse.

Go be true friends!
 

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New though I am - Creature's rant here seems more than anything like a cry for help, loud as any I've heard.
... I understand, and support the staff's ban & the reasoning behind this.
... As humans, as Friends - Wow, Hard! Sorry & condolences to all people involved and touched.


I would humbly suggest - Any FRIENDS, with a physical 20 on Creature, and the means and heart to do so... Go Be A Friend! Go try to help, your friend John - support him in his battle with whatever personal demons are causing this collapse.

Go be true friends!
creatures rants at this point are far from a cry for help. he has been reached out to multiple times by people close to him.
 

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Unrelated - I need a sad face reaction!! I don't want to thumbs down this, I want to cry! It's POOP, but doesn't deserve a poop rating. I understand and agree, but don't want to rate positively either... Need sad face! :(
 

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Unrelated - I need a sad face reaction!! I don't want to thumbs down this, I want to cry! It's POOP, but doesn't deserve a poop rating. I understand and agree, but don't want to rate positively either... Need sad face! :(
you can feel the need to leave a negative rating if thats how you feel but like you said yer new. you arnt aware of how long this has been going on or how many chances @creature has been given to talk about things or how much leniency he has been given in the past. there is nothing unfair about this decision and even with that being said like i said before this wasnt a easy call for any of us.
 

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Matt, don't even interview him in a podcast! He'll rant at you then. Profanity is like alcohol, use it safely and responsibly.
 
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creature dear creature. I; for one, will miss your crazy ass rants. For understanding comes from ones soul not the manipulation of ones mind.

Personally, I think you are one to put your life on the line for a cause you feel is just. Hope to make a connection with you at some point in the future. Until then; stay true, stay woke, stay free and most of all stay you.
Sorry to see you go. Best regards.

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I am very saddened to announce that we have had to permanently ban @creature from StP. Creature has been a significant financial backer of StP for the past few years, and has done a lot in the past to help support the Dirty Scouts Jamboree with both vehicle assistance and financing food/booze for the event. While eccentric, most of us have enjoyed having Creature as part of our community, especially those of us that have known him in person.

Unfortunately over the past few months, his behavior has gotten increasingly erratic, resulting in countless posts cursing out various users (violating our no flaming rule) on the message board; this is in addition to many, many drunken tirades being posted that were difficult to decipher. From the sound of things, Creature started hitting the bottle pretty hard (sake, to be specific) and this seems to be contributing to his increasing lack of control.

While I have known Creature in real life and 100% believe he has a good heart and excellent intentions, his deteriorating state has violated our rules many, many times more than we would usually allow from any other user. Due to his latest cursing fit in this thread, the staff decided that we can no longer let this go on despite how some of us may feel about him personally; this resulted in two warnings being issued, leading to his account being muted.

Upon receiving the notification message that his second warning had been issued (and that his account was now muted for 30 days) he proceeded to post the following:





After discussing it privately, the staff reached the consensus that Creature should be banned permanently from the website due to his inability to see how he was breaking the rules and for multiple threats against members of StP, myself, and the staff in general.

It sucks that it had to go down this way, and despite his torrent of threats and insults towards myself, I actually feel no ill will towards him and I hope he seeks out the help he needs in order to get past whatever is affecting him in such a negative way right now.
Maybe this will help he see, and he will seek out help. Fingers crossed !!
 
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I found a lot of his stuff pretentious and annoying. Long drunken posts to verify his “creative artistic” angst?
 
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From the little I coversed with him, he really seems to be a good guy, but definitely is quick to anger if people/situations don't go exactly as he feels they should. He talks about matt being a 2 year old or whatever but, his own mentality regarding not "getting his own way" is actually quite childish. It's like a temper tantrum coming from an intellegent grown ass man. I hope he can come to accept the fact that not everyone is going to think/act exactly as he believes they should. If he can let shit roll off his back a bit better and pick his battles, I think he'll get a lot more contentment out of life. I wish him the best.
 

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Goddammit.

This fucking sucks.

I'm sure that all of you who know him in person likely feel the same way I do.

I kinda thought his rants WERE getting a bit "darker" in recent months, but I was REALLY hoping he'd get out of his slump.

Fuck.

I almost feel like y'all just told me he died.

I never did like sake much...
 

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never drank sake

don't always agree with any individual moderator

really loved creature's insights and posting style

but

the messages were too much for sure

clearly right to ban

hope to meet the guy irl somehow anyway
 
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One could say CREATURE was FEATURE around here!

But, that boi needs help. But, sometimes, you have to hit rock bottom. Nobody likes it, but it's the hard truth. If he doesn't get himself killed, the error of his ways will helpfully become clear, at some point in his life.
 
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Not surprised by this at all, actually.
Glad the moderators on this site have such integrity, and level headed capability to not let personal ties get in the way of things here.

Oops, meant to post this as @dumpsternavel
 

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Funny, I was just talking to a friend about the perils of sake...

"No matter what flavor it was/is, (cranberry, banana, etc) it still tastes like shit..."
 
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I honestly don't even know what to say except that it's always so heart-breaking to see a friend cross over into some dark shit because of substance addiction...

I can only hope that he'll wake up and realize what he's doing. He really built up some strange delusions....
 
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