The Military Sleep System is designed to be a rugged all season dynamic shelter that is lightweight enough to carry. Obviously the MSS is better for how we travel since it scalable to changing regions, seasons & temperatures. You can use just the bivy with the patrol bag in the hot summer, or add all 3 sleeping bags together for sleeping out in the cold snow. Many of us have come to like & trust our MSS systems regardless how we are traveling but as I state in my earlier post they are not exactly perfect. They are lightyears ahead of any tarp/tent solution out there & being military surplus they are both durable, camo, affordable & easily found throughout the US. I feel that my woodland bivy blends nicely on RR cars but I know that a newer digital woodland/desert camo could be even better.That looks like an overpriced civilian MSS to me. What's the difference?
THAT $180 JUST BUYS THE CANVAS BIVY SACK! THE FOAM PAD & SLEEPING BAG ARE EXTRA!Yes, it is a bit pricy, but for what you get, it may be a great idea.
THAT $180 JUST BUYS THE CANVAS BIVY SACK! THE FOAM PAD & SLEEPING BAG ARE EXTRA!
I hate to break it to you @Ironweed but some of us have been using waterproof bivy sacks to travel (hitchhiking,camping, freighthopping etc) for decades. My military goretex bivy is always on my pack & I just adjust which sleeping bags I carry with me depending on where I am going, during what season etc.
This specific bivy is a new one to me. I dont like the price, the bulk of it (it seems like its made to accommodate big fat wealthy hunters) and unsure how breathable it is. There are obvously many bivy sacks out there from expensive expedition gear designed to climb Mount Everest down to the tried & true inexpensive Goretex bivy thats part of the US military sleep system MSS.
I wonder if it would be a good solution to train riders who mostly ride up in colder climates up in Canada or in Alaska? Also it could be good for someone who rubertramps it out of a small compact car yet sleeps outside. Any rubber tramps with a van,bus, rv wouldnt need the waterproof canvas bivy for shelter. If I didnt have to hump it on my back everywhere I would love to have that thick ass foam pad under my back thats for sure.
Good find @Ironweed but I am too cheap to test it out.