hey i found this cool interview with this dude who's still in jail over waco on viceland...
i dont like religious people, i dont like right wingers...some of you might critizse me for takeing up there cause
but seriously..
whats the defferance between them and operation move...or lenard pelton in the aim

there are operation move people still in jail
lenard pelton still in jail
pureto rican nationalists still in jaill...
.....
waco people in jail

even though they were all aquetted
it's a message from the goverment...resestance is futile
you will be crushed

now i might be contradicting myself from 'cop killa' but i didint know all the details and didint know the pigs were rounding up his friends
now i think reflective hatrid of all law enforcement is silly...not every one who's dealt with by are system is clean
there are
human predetors out there who would have to be dealt with harshly in any socity
but that is not an excuse for mass repression



http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n10/h...d-waco-204.php

For 51 days last year everybody knew what was happening in Waco, Texas. On February 28, four ATF agents had died in an attempt to carry out a search warrant on the Mount Carmel ranch just outside the small town. The ranch was home to David Koresh, the leader of the Branch Davidians, an offshoot of the Adventist Christian movement. According to his followers, Koresh was a prophet, but there was also evidence suggesting that he was quite possibly a bit of a sex pest and almost definitely a borderline delusional Bible-basher.

Koresh had been turfed out of his former church for telling his pastor that he’d been commanded by God to impregnate his young daughter. This sort of faith-fuelled deviance didn’t stop once he’d gathered together a bunch of followers, either. It’s rumoured that he managed to convince his little corner of Christianity that he had been commanded to annul their marriages and claim sole sexual rights over all of his female followers, which included girls as young as 12. At least one 14-year-old fathered a child by him and it’s believed that Koresh was papa to several more. He’s also suspected of abusing the children of the church he took control of outside Waco.

Of more pertinence to the US government, however, was his record as a gunslinger. Indeed, in the struggle for control over the Branch Davidians, Koresh and several of his disciples pitched up armed to the teeth with revolvers and shotguns.

Once he’d established himself, Koresh began to assure his followers that the apocalypse would come when the US military attacked Mount Carmel. So, the sect began to hoard heavy weaponry, using one of the members’ legal gun-trading business as a front to purchase everything they needed for a showdown with the US army.

In the end, after a stand-off and a suitably dramatic climax, Koresh and more than 70 of his followers died in fires which raged through the Mount Carmel complex. Few Davidians escaped. However, we managed to track down the Davidians’ highly regarded theologian Livingstone Fagan, a diminutive Jamaican-born Brit from Nottingham who was convicted of voluntary manslaughter and handed a 30-year sentence. He has already served time in El Reno and is currently incarcerated in Virginia. The guy has a thousand yard stare and he’s undoubtedly well-versed in scripture with a very clear idea of his beliefs. Vice met him in a bare room, a Bible on one side of him and a glass of water on the other. He seemed ready to defend himself all over again at any minute.


Vice: Hello Livingstone. So, what can you tell us about David Koresh?
Livingstone Fagan: David was part of a bigger picture. He was a conduit for God’s word, foretold in the scriptures. He said to the FBI negotiator, “Your first mistake is not believing that I have a God who communicates with me”. He was just a part of the prophecy. They think this thing is over. It’s not. It’s difficult because David went through quite a transition to become who he was by the experience he had in the 70s, which was a yielding up of his being to become that which was stated of him in the scriptures. He would only speak in relation to the scriptures, that was how involved he was, and his knowledge of the scripture was incredible. He could balance things in such a way that he could communicate to a very diverse groups of individuals. I went to a theological seminary, I listened to scholars speak in matters of religion, but in terms of understanding the scriptures, no one could match David.

So you had complete trust in the guy, whatever he got up to?
No, it’s an ongoing process. Prophets can go astray. David didn’t counsel us to look at him in that way, he counselled us to look at the scriptures.

OK, so according to the scriptures, how long will it be until David’s prophecy is complete?
We hoped it would be complete before this point but it’s not a day and month thing, it’s events. The Waco event triggered certain other events. After the Waco event it was predicted that our attackers would go on the rampage in the Middle East. That is happening. After that, they will eventually go into Israel, and that is starting to happen now, with the arguments over the peace initiative. After that, you’re going to see something that is going to extend beyond the norm of human experiences.

Wow, that sounds pretty neat. When will the “beyond human experience” bit start?
We’re nearing that point. Part of what’s keeping us going is that all we were told about how the Waco events would play out has actually happened. So, we’re in a position here where there’s nothing we can do, no way we can turn from it. It is an inevitability.

There was some concern over the way the kids at Mount Carmel were being treated.
There was nothing wrong with our children. The life out there was good for them. If you are talking about their early, mental development, then that was also good for them. You don’t even have to hear my word. You can hear it from other people, officials. I had a son who was bought up there and he was a fine, adventurous boy.